Watch & enjoy. See the pale face of shia debater. 😉
Now see this:
Now lets move to shia sahih hadith on this issue:
According to shia’s: Ali (ra) didn’t explicitly protested, nor invited people for his khilafah because he knows the future that, they will reject him! Therefore he never tried to call upon them once for the sake of ALLAH!
It is really confusing, than what is the duty of divinely appointed imam? According to shia Ali(ra) never called anyone for his right of khalifat, then how can you blame others for this!
أبى رحمه الله قال: حدثنا سعد بن عبد الله قال: حدثنا احمد بن محمد ابن عيسى، عن العباس بن معروف، عن حماد بن عيسى، عن حريز، عن بريد بن معاوية، عن أبى جعفر ” ع ” قال: ان عليا ” ع ” لم يمنعه من ان يدعو الناس إلى نفسه إلا انهم ان يكونوا ضلالا لا يرجعون عن الاسلام أحب إليه من ان يدعوهم فيأبوا عليه فيصيرون كفارا كلهم.
Imam Baqir (as) said that he (Ali (as)) preferred that they should err and not forsake Islam rather than that he should call upon them and that they should refuse him and thereby become unbelievers.
- Al-Sadooq, ‘ilal Al-Sharaa-‘, vol. 1, pg. 150, hadeeth #10
- Al-Majlisi, Bihaar Al-Anwaar, vol. 29, pg. 440
The chain is sahih. Lets examine:
سعد بن عبد الله is thiqah (trustworthy) according to.
- Al-Najaashee, Rijaal, pg. 178
- Al-Toosi, Fihrist, pg. 216
- Al-Toosi, Rijaal, pg. 427
- Al-Hillee, Al-KhulaaSah, pg. 79
أحمد بن محمد بن عيسى is thiqah according to:
- Al-Najaashee, Rijaal, pg. 83
- Al-Toosi, Fihrist, pg. 61
- Al-Toosi, Rijaal, pg. 351
- Al-Kashee, Rijaal, pg. 596
العباس بن معروف is thiqah according to:
- Al-Najaashee, Rijaal, pg. 281
- Al-Toosi, Rijaal, pg. 361
- Al-Hillee, Al-KhulaaSah, pg. 118
حماد بن عيسى is thiqah according to:
- Al-Najaashee, Rijaal, pg. 143
- Al-Toosi, Fihrist, pg. 157
- Al-Toosi, Rijaal, pg. 334
- Al-Hillee, Al-KhulaaSah, pg. 56
- Al-Kashee, Rijaal, pg. 375
حريز بن عبد الله السجستاني = حريز and he is thiqah according to:
- Al-Toosi, Fihrist, pg. 162
- Al-Khoei, Mu’jam Al-Rijaal, vol. 4, pg. 249, person # 2637
بريد بن معاوية is thiqah according to:
- Al-Hillee, Al-KhulaaSah, pg. 27
- Al-Najaashee, Rijaal, pg. 1112
- Ibn Daawood, Rijaal, pg. 67 & 430
- Al-Kashee, Rijaal, pg. 148
As you can see, the chain is impeccable. This narration is Sahih.
2. Shia also have the hadith which says that: Ali(ra) and all of the A’imma of the Ahl al-Bayt i.e. 10 imams (This proves that Hassan(ra) gave bayah to Muawiyah(ra) & even Hussain(ra) gave bayah to yazeed!), except for the twelfth Imam , gave bayah to the tyrants of their times. In fact, this is one reason for the ghayba and zhuhur.
As Imam said in his tawqi` to Ishaq b. Ya`qub:
وأما علة ما وقع من الغيبة فإن الله عزوجل يقول : « يا أيها الذين آمنوا لا تسئلوا عن أشياء إن تبد لكم تسؤكم » ( 2 ) إنه لم يكن لاحد من آبائي عليهم السلام إلا وقد وقعت في عنقه بيعة لطاغية زمانه ، وإني أخرج حين أخرج ، ولا بيعة لاحد من الطواغيت في عنقي .
And as to the cause of the transpiring of the occultation, then verily Allah (aj) says: ‘O you who believe! Do not ask about (those) things which if revealed to you would torment you’ [Surat al Ma’idah: 102]. Verily there was not one from my fathers عليهم السلام but there happened to be the bayah (pledge of allegiance) to the despot of his time on his neck, and I will emerge when I will emerge and there shall not be the bay`ah of anyone of the despots on my neck.
Source: Kamaal al Deen Wa Tamam al Ni`mah of Shaykh al Saduq, Chapter 45, Mention of the Epistles (Tauqee`aat) That Have Reached from the Qa’im ( ذكر التوقيعات الواردة عن القائم عليه السلام)
More hadiths can be found on Kamal al-Din, p315, Hadith #2 & al-Ihtijaj, v2, p289;; v2, p469 & Bihar al-Anwar, v44, p19, Hadith #3;; v51, p132, Hadith #1;; v52, p92, Hadith #7 & Kitab al-Ghaiba, al-Tusi, p290 etc.
& then suddenly a letter from Najhul-balagha:
إنه بايعني القوم الذين بايعوا أبا بكر وعمر وعثمان ، على ما بايعوهم عليه ، فلم يكن للشاهد أن يختار ولا للغائب أن يرد ، وإنما الشورى للمهاجرين والأنصار ، فإن اجتمعوا على رجل وسموه إماماً كان ذلك لله رضى فإن خرج منهم خارج بطعن أو بدعة ردوه إلى ماخرج منه فإن أبى قاتلوه على اتباعه غير سبيل المؤمنين ، وولاه الله ما تولى
Verily, the people who payed allegience to Abu Bakr, Umar and Uthman, have payed allegience to me based on the same principles as the allegience to them. So anyone who was present has no right to go against his pledge of allegience, and anyone who was absent has no right to oppose it. And verily shura (consultation) is only the right of the Muhajirs and the Ansar. So if they decide upon a man and declare him their imam, then it is with the pleasure of Allah. If anyone goes against this decision, then he must be persuaded to follow the rest of the people. If he persists, then fight with him for leaving that which has been accepted by the believers. And Allah shall let him wander misguided and not guide him. (Nahjul-Balaghah, Letter #6)
When you show above sahih shia hadith to rafida, they will start claiming that Imam Ali gave bayah after 6months after the death of her wife i.e. fatima bint muhammad(pbuh) & this is recorded in sahih bukhari/sahih muslim & etc. etc. They will try to confuse you by raising the question: Why Ali(ra) didnot went instantly along with others for bayah? Why he wait for 6months?
Now the question arise why Ali(ra) wait for 6months? Lets see what how shia alim solved this mystery?
It has been recounted in many traditions that after receiving allegiance from the community, Abu Bakr sent someone to Ali and asked for his allegiance. Ali said, “I have promised not to leave my house except for the daily prayers until I compile the Quran.” And it has been mentioned that Ali gave his allegiance to Abu Bakr after six months. This itself is proof that Ali had finished compiling the Quran. Likewise, it has been recounted that after compiling the Quran he placed the pages of the Holy Book on a camel and showed it to the people. It is also recounted that the battle of Yamamah after which the Quran was compiled, occurred during the second year of the caliphate of Abu Bakr. These facts have been mentioned in most works on history and hadith which deal with the account of the compilation of the Holy Quran.
Now i ask you O SHIA: If Ali(ra) never claimed his right of khalifat only because the peoples & islam would divide & peoples would become kafir, then WHY YOU SHIA OPENLY CLAIM THIS? Why your imam Baqir said this?
DON’T YOU & YOUR IMAM BAQIR LOVE TO FOLLOW IMAM ALI?
WHY ARE YOU DIVIDING THIS UMMAH; BY AGAIN & AGAIN RAISING THE ISSUE OF KHALIFAT OF ABU BAKR(RA)?
I just want to say: Subhân Allâh, and those guys are the one who says ‘They don’t know what ‘Ali(ra) was’? You guys have forsaken the foremost attribute of Sayyidunâ Ali (ra). And may Allâh’s curse be upon who fabricated this and accused the Mawlâ of believers concealing the command of the Dîn.
Contributed by Nadir zaveri, Jondab Azdi
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