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Ammar Nakhshawani: Ali hid the real Quran, only 12th Imam will reveal it

بسم الله الرحمن الرحیم

Sayed Ammar Nakshwani claims Ali bin abi Talib compiled and then hid the real Quran, only the 12th Imam, the Mahdi of the Shia, will reveal it when he appears.

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Name of Umar in the progeny of Ali bin abi Talib

Ali (ra) is perhaps the only person whose progeny is not empty of the name ‘Umar’ till his great grandson’s great grandson.

This is quite interesting:

Ali’s son
Umar ibn Ali

Ali’s grandson
Umar ibn Hussain ibn Ali

Ali’s great grandson
Umar ibn Ali ibn Hussain ibn Ali

Ali’s great grandson’s son
Umar ibn Jafar ibn Muhammad ibn Umar ibn Ali

Ali’s great grandson’s grandson
Umar ibn Hassan ibn Ali ibn Ali ibn Hussain ibn Ali

Ali’s great grandson’s great grandson
Umar ibn Musa ibn Jafar ibn Baqir ibn Ali ibn Hussain ibn Ali


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Ali’s opinion on Uthman, Talhah & Zubayr

بسم الله الرحمن الرحیم

al-Salamu `Aleykum,

Since I’ve been going through the books of history, as you know they’re full of stories, some have truth to them and some are fabrications, usually chainless narratives having no sources.

So since we’ve had to post such horrible things, we might as well post some authentic reliable material to remind the readers of the truth… There definitely are quite a bunch of narrations which show the good relationship they had, I picked this one.

Al-Bayhaqi has made Takhreej of this in his “al-I`tiqad”:

أَخْبَرَنَا أَبُو طَاهِرٍ الْفَقِيهُ، أنا أَبُو بَكْرٍ مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ الْحُسَيْنِ الْقَطَّانُ، ثنا أَحْمَدُ بْنُ يُوسُفَ السُّلَمِيُّ، ثنا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ يُوسُفَ، قَالَ: ذَكَرَ سُفْيَانُ، عَنْ جَعْفَرِ بْنِ مُحَمَّدٍ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، قَالَ: قَالَ عَلِيٌّ: إِنِّي لأَرْجُو أَنْ أَكونَ، وَطَلْحَةُ، وَالزُّبَيْرُ مِنَ الَّذِينَ قَالَ اللَّهُ : وَنَزَعْنَا مَا فِي صُدُورِهِمْ مِنْ غِلٍّ إِخْوَانًا عَلَى سُرُرٍ مُتَقَابِلِينَ. وَكَانَ أَمِيرُ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ، بَرِيئًا مِنْ قَتْلِ عُثْمَانَ، يَقُولُ: وَاللَّهِ مَا قَتَلْتُ وَلا أَمَرْتُ وَلا رَضِيتُ وَلا شَارَكْتُ فِي قَتْلِ عُثْمَانَ، وَلَكِنْ غُلِبْتُ، وَكَانَ يَقُولُ: إِنِّي لأَرْجُو أَنْ أَكُونَ أَنَا، وَعُثْمَانُ مِنَ الَّذِينَ قَالَ اللَّهُ : وَنَزَعْنَا مَا فِي صُدُورِهِمْ مِنْ غِلٍّ إِخْوَانًا عَلَى سُرُرٍ مُتَقَابِلِينَ

[Al-Baqir said: `Ali ibn abi Talib said: “I wish that I and Talhah and al-Zubayr would be from those whom Allah described: {And We will remove whatever is in their breasts of resentment, [so they will be] brothers, on thrones facing each other (In paradise)}” and Ameer-ul-Mu’mineen may Allah be pleased with him was innocent from the murder of `Uthman, he would say: “By Allah I never took part in the killing nor did I order it nor am I pleased with it and I never participated in `Uthman’s murder, but I failed (to help because of the rebels).” And he used to say: “I wish that I and `Uthman would be as Allah described: {Brothers on thrones facing each other}.“]

Another narration from al-Tabari’s Tafsir:

حدثنا مـحمد بن بشار، قال: ثنا مـحمد بن جعفر، قال: ثنا شعبة، عن أبـي بشر، عن يوسف بن سعد ولـيس بـابن ماهَك عن مـحمد بن حاطب، قال: سمعت علـيًّا يخطب فقرأ هذه الآية: { إنَّ الَّذِينَ سَبَقَتْ لَهُمْ مِنَّا الـحُسْنَى أُولَئِكَ عَنْها مُبْعَدُونَ }. قال: عثمان رضي الله عنه منهم

[Muhammad bin Bashar told us, he said: Muhammad bin Ja`far told us, he said: Shu`bah told us, from abu Bishr, from Yusuf bin Sa`d not ibn Mahik, from Muhammad bin Hatib, he said: I heard `Ali deliver a sermon, so he mentioned this verse {Indeed, those for whom the best [reward] has preceded from Us – they are from it far removed.} [21:101], `Ali said: “`Uthman may Allah be pleased with him is from among them.”]

Muhammad bin Bashar al-Tabari’s Shaykh is Thiqah Hafiz, Ibn Ja`far is Ghandar, Yusuf is al-Jumahi, and ibn Hatib is a Sahabi. Hadith appears Sahih.

Ali tells us his opinion of why the rebellion of `Uthman was done in the first place, in al-Sunan by `Abdullah we read:

حَدَّثَنِي إِسْمَاعِيلُ أَبُو مَعْمَرٍ، نا عَبَّادُ بْنُ الْعَوَّامِ، عَنِ الْجُرَيْرِيِّ، عَنْ مُضَارِبِ بْنِ حَزْنٍ، قَالَ: قِيلَ لِعَلِيٍّ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ: ” مَا حَمَلَهُمْ عَلَى قَتْلِ عُثْمَانَ؟ قَالَ: الْحَسَدُ “

[Isma`eel abu Ma`mar told me, `Abbas bin `Awwam told me, from Sa`eed bin Iyas al-Jariri, from Mudarib bin Hazan, he said: They said to `Ali may Allah be pleased with him: “What caused them to kill `Uthman?,” He replied: “Jealousy.”]

Hadith is authentic.

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