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Who was Imam Zaman of Ali bin abi talib [ra]?

بسم الله الرحمن الرحیم

Shia use a Hadith out of Context. The hadith is ‘whoever dies without recognizing his Imam, dies the death of ignorance”. By using this Hadith they try to prove their 12th Imam who is in hiding and they ask Sunnis that who is their Imam and that they will die the death of ignorance if they don’t recognize the Imam etc.  However, we have refuted this silly claim of theirs numerous times. Check here and here.

Anyways, lets see who was the Imam of Ali (ra).

The Imam of Ali [ra] from his own sayings:

« اللّهمّ انّى اشهدك و كفى بك شهيدا انّى اشهد انّك انت ربّى وإنَّ رَسُولَكَ مُحَمَّدٌ – صلى الله عليه وسلم – نَبِيِّيْ؛ وإنَّ الدِّينَ الَّذِيْ شَرَعْتَ لَهُ دِيْنِيْ؛وَإنَّ الكِتابَ الذي أُنْزِلَ إلَيْهِ إمَامِيْ »

O Allah be witness and your witness is sufficient, O Allah I bear witness that you are my Lord and your apostle Muhammad (saw) is the Prophet and the religion that you gave him is my religion and the book that you revealed upon him, is my Imam.

صحيفه علويّه للمحلاتی ص360 چاپ تهران
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All deviant sects rely on Ahlus Sunnah

بسم الله الرحمن الرحیم

The below extract is from the letter which was written by Shaykh Uthman Al khamees. Which is titled as:
From the Heart To the Heart

A Letter to the Seekers of Truth from among the Shiahs

Here I found an interesting extract which talks about the current Quran which we have along with us. We find that ALL those deviant sects other than Ahlesunnah rely on the same Quran, was transmitted by Ahlesunnah. This is something upon which we should ponder. This is the great sign which shows that Ahlesunnah are actually the mainstream muslims. And all other deviant sects other than Ahlesunnah are dependent upon Ahlesunnah regarding this issue.

Do you know my brothers and sisters that a person cannot be a [true] Twelver Shi’ah except if he believes that the Quran is Muharaf[1]? While this might seem strange, what follows is even stranger.

Ahl Al-Sunnah transmitted the Quran from the Prophet [May Blessings of Allah and Peace be upon him and his household] through Tawatur[2] and a multitude of widespread authentic chains. These Mushafs that are printed today, and people all over the world read from, are [from] one of these four narrations:

  • The narration of Hafs from ‘Asim, and this is widespread in the Arabian Gulf, Egypt, Shaam, Iraq, and Yemen.
  • The second is the narration of Warsh from Nafi’, and this is common in Morocco and Algeria.
  • The third narration is that of Qalon from Nafi’, and it is widespread in Libya.
  • The fourth is the narration of Al-Duwri from Abi ‘Amr, and this is common in Chad and the South of Sudan.

In addition to these there are other narrations which are not that common among people, but are being taught in institutes and Universities.

So ask [May Allah bless you, benefit you, and make you a benefit for others] … ask your scholars: Where is the Quran of Aal Al-Bayt?

Where is the Mushaf which the Imams narrate and transmit from each other?

Where is the chain of: Al-‘Askari from the way of Al-Hadi from Al-Jawad from Al-Ridaa form Al-Kazim from Al-Sadiq fromAl-Baqir from Zayn Al-‘Abideen from Al-Husien (the grandson of the Prophet) or Al-Hasan (the grandson of the Prophet) from Ali [May Allah be pleased with them all]?

Did the students of these Imams narrate everything from them except the Quran?!!

Are the scholars of the Shi’ah capable of producing a chain of the Quran up to the Messenger [May Blessings of Allah and Peace be upon him and his household] without relying on or referring back to the chains of Ahl Al-Sunnah?!!

I am definite that they are incapable of producing such a thing, so go back to them and check if they can correct me.

What I think they will say to you, though, is: [Yes,] there is a narration, and it is the narration of Hamza Al-Zayaat[3]from the way of Al-Sadiq[4] from Al-Baqir from Zayn Al-‘Abideen from Al-Husien from Ali.

This should raise another important question: Why is this being narrated by Hamza Al-Zayaat from Al-Sadiq, and not by Al-Kazim [from Al-Sadiq]? And why isn’t Al-Kazim’s son: Al-Rida narrating this from him? And why isn’t Al-Jawad narrating it from Al-Rida … this is a very important point to pay attention to.

Then I add to this another question [to the Shi’ah]: Where are your chains today to Hamza Al-Zayaat? And where is the recitation of Hamza Al-Zayaat being recited today?

All the countries that the Shi’ah recite [Quran] in today follow: the narration of Hafs from ‘Asim, the narration of Warsh from Nafi’, the narration of Qalon from Nafi’, or the narration of Al-Duwri from Abi ‘Amr.

Where is the narration of Hamza? I do not know of a Mushaf that is printed upon the narration of Hamza on this day. So I want to ask two questions:

As for the first question: If the Companions were Apostates, especially the famous ones from among them, and they were the ones that transmitted the Quran: How can a Shi’ah trust the narration of those who he believe are Apostates? This Quran that is between our hands today, is from the narration of those companions of the Prophet [May Blessings of Allah and Peace be upon him and his household], and it is the one narrated by Hafs from the way of ‘Asim from Abi ‘Abdulrahman Al-Salami from ‘Uthman and Ali and Ubi and Zayd.

The second question is: Where is the chain of the Shi’ah to Hafs or to Warsh or to Qalon or to Al-Duwri?

[After answering these questions you would understand why we said that] you will not be a shi’ah except if you say that the Quran had been subject to Tahreef.

We add to this, that some Shi’a scholars, such as Ni’mat-u-Allah Al-Jazai’ri[5], Al-Nuri Al-Tabrasi[6], and others proclaimed that Mutawatir narrations were transmitted from the infallible Imams stating that the Quran is Muharaf, yet you do not find even one narration [from the Imams] clearly stating that the Quran is free from any such Tahreef.

The first to say that [the Quran is] free from Tahreef [from their] earlier scholars are four, they are: Al-Tabrasi Abu Ali[7], Al-Tusi[8], Al-Murtada[9], and Al-Saduq[10]. As for Al-Mufeed[11] he has two sayings in this matter.

It follows, that all those who claim to follow the Twelve Imams should also say [as their Imams are reported to have said] that the Quran has been subject to Tahreef, since the narrations that came from the way of the Imams attested to such a thing. As for those who [don’t wish to follow the Imams and choose to follow] someone else, like Al-Tusi, Al-Murtada, Al-Saduq, and Al-Tabrasi then that is their matter.

For that reason you will find that the scholars of Ahl Al-Sunnah are strict in this matter, and say that whoever says that the Quran is Muharaf is a Kaffir, and they clearly declare such a thing based on what Allah the Exalted said: {Indeed, it is We who sent down the Qur’an and indeed, We will be its guardian}[12].

The scholars of the Shi’ah, on the other hand, do not say that, rather they just say that he who says such a thing is just mistaken.

Many times we hear of a narration called “Hadith Al-Thaqalayn”, and the Thaqalayn as is known are: The Book [of Allah], and Aal Al-Bayt. This tradition, which came in the Shiah books, state that the Quran is the Major [Thiql], and Aal Al-Bayt is the minor Thiql.

So after this we say:

Don’t all the scholars of the Shi’ah with no exception, say that the killers of Al-Husien [May Allah be pleased with him] are Apostates, since Al-Husien [May Allah be pleased with him] is a member of the minor Thiql, thus his killers are Apostates due to their attack on a member of the minor Thiql, based on this tradition. Yet they do not accuse any of those who attack the major Thiql, the Quran, of any of that?!

For that reason a huge number … yes a huge number … from the big Shi’ah scholars said that the Quran is Muharaf.

So do you accept these [scholars] as the symbols and heads of the Mazhab you are attributed to? [These are the scholars] whom you ask Allah to bestow his Mercy on, and whom you highly praise the knowledge and books they left behind.

Do you know, May Allah Bless you, that Husien Al-Nuri Al-Tabrasi[13] said that the Noble Quran has ridiculous, silly verses (I ask refuge in Allah for me and you from such Apostasy)!

I ask you: Is he [after saying that] a Muslim?!

What he said can be found in his evil book: “Fasl Al-Khitab Fee Ithbaat Tahreef Kitab Rab Al-Arbab”.

I do not which to rush you for the answer, but would like to say that if you were truly concerned with arriving to the truth, and I think that you are (which is why I am writing this to you) … Go ask your scholars, ask them about the status of that man among the scholars of the Twelver Shiahs.

If we do not stand up to defend the Quran, and we do not show animosity towards those who disrespect it, and do not free ourselves from those who attack it, then By Allah how can our Islam remain correct.

Push your scholars, May Allah bless you, to declare all those who slander and attack the Quran as non Muslims, in the same way as they openly declare the Apostasy of the Nawasib[14] [May Allah curse them], even though the Nawasib showed animosity to humans i.e. the household of the Prophet. Why then don’t they (Shiah scholars) also declare as Apostates and curse those who show animosity or attack the Book of Allah the Exalted.

As for us Ahl Al-Sunnah, we Praise Allah, who has guided us to the path where we do not distinguish between those who attack the Book of Allah, or the Household of the Messenger, or his Companions. We have one Manhaj in defending all that which is revered in this Religion. We show animosity and free ourselves from all those who attack the Book of Allah, rather we declare him as an Apostate, and we hate and free ourselves from all those who slander and attack the household of the Messenger [Blessings and Peace of Allah be upon him and his household] or the companions of our Prophet [Blessings of Allah and Peace upon him].

[1]Tahreef is the belief that the Quran has been subject to alteration after the Death of Prophet Muhammad [Blessings and Peace be upon him], and that the Quran that we have today is not the same as the one left to us by him [Blessings and Peace be upon him]. Such a belief would place one outside the fold of Islam according to the Scholars of Ahl Al-Sunnah wa Al-Jama’ah.

[2]Tawatur or Mutawatir is a narration reported by a significant number of narrators at each level of the chain of narration, in such a way that it becomes beyond possibility that these narrators could have conspired to forge such narration. It is of the highest level of authenticity, and the highest level of Tawatur is that of the Quran.

[3]Hamza Al-Zayaat (80 H to 156/8 H): He is Hamza b. Habib b. ‘Imarah Al-Zayat Al-Kufi. He is one of the scholars of his time in the Qiraat. He was known for his worship and piety. He took the Quran from: Sulaiman Al-A’mash, Humraan b. A’yan, Ja’far b. Muhammad Al-Sadiq, Abu Ishaq Al-Subai’y, and many others.

[4] Original source did not mention Al-Sadiq, however according to books of Qiraat Al-Sadiq was one of those Hamza Al-Zayaat took the Quran from not Al-Baqir (Refer to Ghayat Al-Nihaya). The next paragraph was modified accordingly.

[5]Ni’mat Allah Al-Jazaeri (1050 H – 1112 H): is a highly praised Shi’ah scholar. From his scholars are Muhammad Baqir Al-Majlisi (known as Al-‘Alamah Al-Majlisi) and Muhammad Mohsen (known as Al-Fayd Al-Kashani), as well as many others. He was praised by a number of Shia scholars including Al-Majlisi in the Ijazah he gave him, Al-Hur Al-‘Amili,Yusuf Al-Bahrani, as well as others. Refer to what he said about Tahreef Al-Quran in his book: Al-Anwaar Al-Nu’maniyah

[6]Husien Al-Nuri Al-Tabrasi (1254 H – 1320 H): He was praised by the [Shia] Shaykh Aaqa Al-Tahrani who said of him: “… One of the greatest scholars of the Shia, and one of the grandest men of Islam in this century”. Also Al-Sayid Mohsen Al-Ameen said of him: “He was a noble scholar, a Muhadith, with great knowledge in both the Science of Hadith and Narrators … He was the most unique scholars of his time when it comes to knowledge of narrations and traditions …”. He is the author of the book: Fasl Al-Khitaab fee Ithbaat tahreef Kitab Rab Al-Arbab.

[7]Al-Fadl b. Al-Hasan Al-Tabrasi (460 H – 548 H): The author of Majma’ Al-Bayan fee Tafseer Al-Quran.

[8]Muhammad b. Al-Hasan Al-Tusi (385 H – 460 H): Known as Shaykh Al-Taefah.

[9]Ali b. Al-Husien known as Al-Sayid Al-Murtada (355 H – 436 H).

[10]Abu Ja’far Muhammad b. Ali b. Musa b. Babawayh Al-Qumi (305 H – 381 H): known as Al-Shaykh Al-Saduq.

[11]Muhammad b. Muhammad b. Al-Nu’man (336 H – 413 H): Abu Abdullah Al-Mufeed.

[12] Al-Hijr 15:9

[13] Refer to footnote # 41above.

[14] Who are the Naasibis and what is the ruling on them? Islam Question and Answer – Who are the Naasibis and what is the ruling on them?

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Shia hadith : When Umayyads die, they become lizards

Mulla Baqir Majlisi says in his book Hulyatul Muttaqeen:

در روايت معتبره وارد شده است كه هريك از بنى اميه كه ميميرند، بصورت چلپاسه مسخ ميشوند و فرمود كه هرگاه چلپاسه را مى كشى غسل بكن

It is mentioned in reliable narrations that when anyone from the Bani Umayyad dies, he become a lizard. And the Imam also said that whenever you kill a lizard, than take a bath.

Hulyatul Mattaqeen, p. 521

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Shia Hadith: Dove is Nasibi so Infallible Imam ordered its killing

Mulla Majlisi says in his book Hulyatul Muttaqeen:

درحديث معتبر منقول است كه فاخته در خانه حضرت امام محمد باقر ((عليه السلام )) بود آنحضرت روزى شنيدند كه او خوانندگى ميكرد فرمود كه ميدانيد چه ميگويد گفتند نه فرمود كه ميگويد فقدتكم فقدتكم يعنى نيست شويد نيست شويد پس فرمود كه ما آنرا دفع ميكنيم پيش از آنكه آن مارا دفع كند پس فرمود كه آنرا كشتند

It is mentioned in reliable hadith that a dove had made a nest in the house of Imam Baqir. One day Imam heard him saying while people were present with him, he asked them ‘ Do you know what is it saying? ‘. They replied ‘No’. Imam said : It is saying : May you ruin, may you ruin. Then he said : Before that it drives us away, we will drive it away and then he ordered to kill it.

Hulyatul Muttaqeen, p. 480

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Shia hadith: Kill Ant whether it troubles you or not

Mulla Majlisi says in his book Hulyatul Muttaqeen

درحديث معتبر منقول است كه باكى نيست بكشتن مورچه خواه آزارت بكند خواه نكند

It is mentioned in a reliable hadith that there is no problem if you kill an ant whether it troubles you or not.

Hulyatul Muttaqeen, 482

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Shiism a sect constantly changing

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al-Salamu `Aleykum,

I give you more about this Madhab that is constantly and continuously changing with the passing of time, the Madhab of the Shia which has witnessed more changes and divisions than anything else I came across, and here I quote their renowned scholar Ja`far al-Shakhouri who says:

[And if we look at the Fatwas of our contemporary scholars we will find that they have all left the circle of the Shia Madhab, take this as an example, compare the book “a-Hidayah” of al-Saduq and “al-Muqni`ah” by al-Mufid with the book “Minhaj al-Saliheen” by al-Sayyed al-Kho’ei, you will realize that there are tens of matters in which al-Kho’ei opposed the Mashoor(popular opinion) of the early classical scholars, and if al-Saduq had the chance to read the book “al-Masa’el al-Muntakhabah” by al-Sayyed al-Kho’ei he would have been shocked …(until he says)… And if we wanted to gather the matters in which al-Kho’ei opposed the popular opinion or consensus (of early scholars) we would have reached a number of 200 or 300 Fatwas, and this is also the condition of Khomeini and al-Hakeem and other Maraji`.

And we will soon publish a book of ours in which we counted for the prominent Shia Maraji` starting with Saduq and Mufid, passing by al-`Allamah al-Helli, ending with Sayyed al-Kho’ei and Sayyed Sistani and others who have tens of Shaadh(i.e anomaly) Fatwas.]

And he said:

[Opposing the Mashoor has become very frequent especially after the spreading of the habit of wrapping the Fawtas up with “Obligatory precaution”]

Source: Marji`iyat al-Marhalah wa Ghubar al-Taghyeer, by Ja`far al-Shakhouri, pg.135.

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The Sahaba and the Battle of Siffin [important info]

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Bismillah Alrahman alraheem,

The following are some important notes regarding Siffeen that I thought should be shared with forum members that are interested in the subject:

– The main sources for Siffeen were written by the following:

1) Abu Mikhnaf
2) Jabir Al-Ju’fi
3) Nasr bin Muzahim
4) Yahya bin Sulaiman Al-Ju’fi
5) Ibrahim bin Al-Hussain bin Daizeel

– The first three are Shia narrators. Each of them has been harshly condemned by Sunnis, and they have also been accused of fabricating narrations. The last two are Sunni scholars and are thiqa.

– Nasr bin Muzahim’s book is the only one that reached us.
– Abu Mikhnaf’s book has reached us through Al-Tabari’s narrations in his tareekh and quotes from Al-Nasr bin Muzahim.
– Nasr bin Muzahim’s book also recorded Jabir Al-Ju’fi’s book, or at least, most of it.

 – Ibrahim bin Al-Hussain bin Daizeel’s book has reached us through the narrations of very late scholars, however, it mainly revolves around the narrations of Yahya bin Sulaiman, who in turn, mainly focuses on narrating from Nasr bin Muzahim. In other words, his book isn’t very useful at all.

– It was said that Abdullah bin Ahmad bin Hanbal has a book on Siffeen. However, when I checked his biography, I find no mention of this. I do find that he had a book on Al-Jamal. It seems that he briefly spoke about Siffeen in that book, but nothing worth having it classified as a book on the subject.

– Nasr bin Muzahim’s book, which is, by far, the ultimate source book for Siffeen is unreliable according to the standards of both Sunnis and Shias. He received 99% of his narrations from Sa’ad bin Omar or Amr bin Shimr, both are unknown and weak according to Sunnis and Shias.

– In conclusion, there is no book that did a good job of collecting the events of Siffeen, and most of the details, perhaps 98% of what has been recorded about Siffeen is either baseless or false.

– The most authentic narrations that can be found about Siffeen come from two sources: (1) Musanaf Ibn Abi Shaiba and (2) Al-Sunnah by Al-Khallal. Both include short chapters about Siffeen. Each has around fifty narrations, which usually have nothing to do with the fighting.

– Important lessons that can be learned from those two books include: (1) Most of the people of Badr and the “tree” did not take part, (2) the two saw each other as Muslims and not kuffar and regretted their actions, that (3) the early scholars feared Allah and did not dare condemn the sahaba for fighting, and that (4) the fighting only lasted for three days, which implies that the deaths couldn’t have been tens of thousands.

Inshallah you all find this information beneficial and I suggest for those that are interested to review those two books that I mentioned at the end.

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