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Confusing History Of Shia Imamate And Mahdi


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So a shia said their belief has always been about 12 imam, but in reality, the idea of who would be the mahdi were not so clear by imam’s followers, let alone the no 12.

The confusion happened after every imam died. Fortunately all this was recorded by a 3rd century shia scholar al-Hasan bin Musa al-Nawbakhti in his book Firaq al-Shia. It all started after Ali’s death and it is repeated every time an imam passed away. When the 11th imam died, his followers were divided into 14 different groups, each one has their own unique opinions.

Luckily for shia, several centuries later under the iron fist of bloodthirsty Safavid dynasty, eventually the shia 12er belief reign supreme and became the most powerful of all shia sects.

Let’s see some of the examples of the different imam & mahdi that followers of imam believed from Ali RA until Hasan al-Askari

1. Ali is Mahdi

“….Ali was not killed and he did not die. They said that he would not die until he has driven the Arabs with his cane and filled the earth with justice and fairness after it has been filled with oppression and injustice. This was the first sect in Islam which believed in waqf (imamate ended with Ali as hidden imam) after Rasulullah. They are also the first extremists. They are called Saba’iyyah, the follower of Abdullah bin Saba’ who publicly criticised Abu Bakar, Umar…“

“…some scholars who were close to Ali (AS) said that Abdullah bin Saba’ was a Jew before he converted to Islam…”

“….he (Abdullah bin Saba’) was the first to declare that the imamate of Ali (AS) was mandatory…”

[The first people who hated Abu Bakar & Umar (ra) were the followers of Abdullah bin Saba the Jew, the same person whose existence many Shias of today try to deny]

2. Muhammad bin al Hanafiyya is Mahdi

“….they said al Hasan bin Ali went to war against Mu’awiyah with the permission of Muhammad and made treaty also with his permission. al Husein also, they said, fought Yazid with his permission, if not, both of them (al Hasan & al Husein) will be astray and ruined…”

[Hasan & Husein are followers of the true imam, Muhammad al-Hanafiyah]

3. Abdullah bin Muhammad bin al Hanafiyya (Abu Hashim) is Mahdi

“….he is called Abu Hashim and he is his father’s eldest son. His father appointed him as his successor….he is al Mahdi and he did not die….”

[Muhammad al-Hanafiyah’s son, not Hasan nor Husein as the next imam & Mahdi]

4. Abdullah bin Mu’awiyah bin Abdullah bin Ja’far bin Abi Talib (appointed by Abu Hashim) is Mahdi

“….Abdullah bin Mu’awiyah is al Mahdi, who was mentioned by Rasulullah and his Ahlulbait and he will lead the world, to fill it with goodness and justice after it was filled with injustice and oppression. Then, when he died, he will leave his position to someone from Bani Hashim – from the descendant of Ali bin Abi Talib….”

[Imamate would be in the hands of Bani Hashim from Ali bin Abi Talib, not just exclusively to Husein’s progeny]

5. Muhammad bin Abdullah bin al Hasan (al-Mutsanna) bin al Hasan bin Ali bin Abi Talib is Mahdi (known as an-Nafs az-Zakiya)

“When Abu Ja’far (AS) dies, his followers were divided into 2 groups. The first believed in the imamate of Muhammad bin Abdullah bin al Hasan bin al Hasan bin Ali bin Abi Talib who revolted in Madina and was killed there. He claimed that he was al Mahdi and he did not die….”

[Mahdi is Hasan’s progeny who was martyred in Madina]

6. Ja’far al-Sadiq is Mahdi

“His followers (Ja’far al Sadiq) were divided into 6 groups…..Ja’far bin Muhammad did not die and he will not die until he revolts and rule the people and he is al-Mahdi….”

[Ja’far al-Sadiq is Mahdi, however after his death the majority of Shia’s scholars & respected figures believed in Abdullah, not Musa al-Kadhim as the next imam. After Abdullah died, they then followed Musa al-Kazim. Whatever happened to the so called hadith which mentioned all the 12 imam by names, did those shia scholars could not tell the difference between the name Abdullah & Musa?]

7. Ismail bin Ja’far al-Sadiq is Mahdi

“….they denied the death of Ismail during his father’s life – saying it was a trick plotted by his father, who was afraid for him, so he hid him. They claimed Ismail would not die until he ruled the world and cared for the people and that he was al-Mahdi, because his father appointed him for the imamate after him….”

[The true imam was Ismail not Musa al-Kadhim]

8. Muhammad bin Ismail bin Ja’far al Sadiq is Mahdi

“….There were only 7 imam after Rasulullah and his Ahlulbait. They were Ali bin Abi Talib, al-Hasan, al-Husein, Ali bin al-Husein, Muhammad bin Ali, Ja’far bin Muhammad, Muhammad bin Ismail bin Ja’far, who was al-Qaim al-Mahdi….”

[True imam were only 7 not 12]

9. Musa al Kadhim is Mahdi

“….Musa bin Ja’far did not die, nor will he die until he rules the world from east to west. He would fill it with justice after it had been filled with oppression. They claimed that he was al-Qaim al-Mahdi….”

[Imamate ended with al-Kadhim, did not continue after him. Ali al-Ridha and others after him were only al-Kadhim’s deputies, not true imam]

10. Muhammad bin Ali bin Muhammad bin Ali bin Musa is Mahdi

“….when Ali bin Muhammad bin Ali bin Musa al-Ridha (AS) died, a group from his followers believed in the imamate of his son, Muhammad, who died in Samarra during his father’s life…They claimed that he was al-Mahdi….”

[Ali al-Ridha did not appointed Muhammad al-Jawad/al-Taqi as the next imam as he was not a mature adult]

11. Hasan bin Ali al-Askari is Mahdi

“….his followers became fourteen 14 groups after his death. One group said that al-Hasan bin Ali is alive, but he disappeared and he is al-Mahdi, for it is impossible for him to die not leaving an acknowledged son….”

[This is one of the most confusing death as his followers were divided into this many groups]

And we still hear shia said that their imamate belief is as clear as the sun. The belief which suppose to prevent the them from misguidance became the doctrine which misguide and confused shia, even their scholars during their imam’s life.


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Majlisi: Authors of 400 Shia Usool are mostly unknown

The first Majlisi says in Rawdat-ul-Muttaqeen fi Sharh man la Yahduruhu al-Faqih, volume 1, chapter on the rulings of water, page 197:

فإنك إذا تتبعت كتب الرجال وجدت أكثر أصحاب الأصول الأربعمائة غير مذكور في شأنهم تعديل و لا جرح (إما) لأنه يكفي في مدحهم و توثيقهم أنهم أصحاب الأصول فإن أصحاب الإمام أبي عبد الله جعفر بن محمد الصادق عليه السلام المصنفين للكتب كانوا أربعة آلاف رجال … ( وإما ) لبعد العهد بين أرباب الرجال و بين أصحاب الأصول و غيرهم من أصحاب الكتب التي تزيد على ثمانين ألف كتاب كما يظهر من التتبع

“If you were to closely study the books on the biographies of narrators, you will discover that most of the authors of the four-hundred Usoul have not received any praise or disparagement; this is either because their reliability and praise were established based on them being from the authors of the Usoul (…) Or because of the long period of time that sets them apart from the scholars who specialize in the condition of narrators…”

So their main Usoul books, the fundamental books of Hadith (fabricated) by the Koufans, are mostly unreliable due to the anonymity of their authors.

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Shah Ismail Safavi & killings of Sunni scholars in Shiraz for refusing to curse Sahaba

Shah Ismail Safavi and killings of Sunni scholars in Shiraz for refusing to curse the Khulafa Rashideen, the close companions of Prophet (saw).

Shia scholar Nematullah al-Jazairi says in Anwar un Numania, 1/ 27:

ولما اتى اسماعيل اعلى الله مقامه الى شيراز وكان اكثر علمائها من المخالفين احضرهم وامرهم بلعن المتخلفين الثلثة فامتنعوا عن اللعن لان التقية لا تجوز عندهم في اللعن واضرابه فامر بقتلهم

When Ismail reached Shiraz, where most of the scholars there were the opponents (Sunnis); he gathered them and ordered them to curse the three caliphs, but they rejected because Taqiyyah is not permissible according to them, so he ordered to kill them.



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*new* Book on Abdullah ibn Saba – First of its kind in English

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Abdullah ibn Saba


New book and first of its kind in English and also a refutation of Shia arguments who try to deny his existence. Published by http://www.Twelvershia.net

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Crimes of Safavids in Azerbaijan, Iran and Khorasan

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English translation by Abu Muslim Khorasani

Crimes of Safavids in Azerbaijan, Persia & Khorasan

– Azerbaijan 

ازآنجا كه مردم آذربايجان در آن زمان سني بودند، شيخ حيدر در اينسال به طور عملي جهاد با سني ها را آغاز نموده ضمن يك فتواي صريح اعلام داشت كه  همة اهل سنت در حكم كفارند، و فقيهان سني دشمنان خدا به شمار ميروند و هركه از آنها تبعيت و تقليد كند از دين خارج شده به كافران ملحق ميشود و قتلش  واجب ميگردد . او در اين فتوا اعلام كرد كه جهاد با اهل سنت يك واجب شرعي است و غارت اموال و اسير كردن و فروختن زنان و فرزندان آنها ثواب  عظيم دارد . او عقائد شيخ بدرالدين را موبه مو اجرا كرد و همان عقيدة افراطي تاتارهاي بكتاشي آناتولي را كه علي ابن ابيطالب را تا مقام الوهي بالا برده  ويرا مورد پرستش قرار ميدادند به صراحت تبليغ كرد؛ وكلية واجبات شرعي را از نماز و روزه وحج را تأويل كرده از گردن مريدانش انداخت . مريدان او كه از اينزمان بطوررسمي لقبِ قزلباش (به فارسي : سرخ سر) يافتند در دسته جات مسلح و منضبط جهادي متشكل شدند، و آباديهاي شروان و داغستان و مناطقي  از قفقاز را كه عموما سني مذهب بودند، تحت عنوان جهاد با كافران مورد حملات غارتگرانه قرار دادند

(شاه اسمایل صفوی – گفتار دوم – منشا قزلباشان و عقاید آنها  صفحه 43 – امیر حسین خنجی)

At that time the people of Azerbaijan were Sunni. Shaykh Haydar practically started the ‘Jihad’ against the Sunnis. IssuingFatwa he openly declared that all Ahl-Sonnat are Kufar and the Sunni Fuqaha are the enemies of Allah and whoever follows them leaves the fold of the religion and becomes one of the Kufar and his killing becomes obligatory. In the Fatwa he declared that  ‘Jihad’ against Ahl-Sonnat is a religious obligation and the plunder of their properties and imprisoning and selling their women and children has a great reward.

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Brief Summary of Twelver (Ithna Ashari) Imami Shiism

Summary of (Twelver) Shi’ism

The Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, failed to establish his message among his Companions, almost all of whom became apostate after his death.
The first Imam was silent and failed to fight or speak out against those who usurped the leadership, and the second Imam gave up leadership to another evil usurper.
Most of the rest of the Imams spent their lives in a state of taqiyya, constantly lieing about their religion and misleading their followers.
Then the twelfth Imam vanished without a trace for 1200 years.
Because of this miserable history of failure, deceit, and inexplicable absence on the part of the infallibles, we must turn for guidance to people in Qum and Najaf,(who for some inexplicable reason are much more reliable than the Companions were.)

This is what I have got so far. Please tell me where I am going wrong, Shias!

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al-Imamah and the Waqifah Shia

Written by Hani (aka TripolySunni)
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al-Salamu `Aleykum,

This will be a brief discussion or “rant” about the Shia Waqifiyyah sect, just like we previously discussed the Fatahiyyah sect and their problems with Musa bin Ja`far, so let’s see what happened to Musa bin Ja`far’s companions…

Firaq al-Shia by al-Nawbakhti, we read on page 86:

[Then a group of those who took Musa bin Ja`far as their Imam did not differ about him, so they held on to his Imamah until he went to jail for the second time, then they differed on him and doubted his Imamah when he went to jail the second time, until he died in the jail of al-Rasheed so they became five sects.]

This is too funny! What religion is this!?

Subhan-Allah! how they are deluded, at one point he’s their Imam, and they have no doubt about his Imamah, then he goes to jail and they all doubt his Imamah and leave him and form various sects… WHERE ARE THE DIVINE SHIA TEXTS AND HADITH!? What kind of religion is this!? Chaos! Confusion! During the time of the Imams they didn’t know who their Imams are! Can you Imagine!?

Let’s read a little about some of these Shia sects from the following sources: Firaq al Shia pages 79-85, al Fusoul al Mukhtarah page 254 and after it.:

[A group said that he passed away in the prison of al Sindhi bin Hashik, and that Yahya bin Khaled al-Barmaki has poisoned him with some dates and grapes he sent him and that the Imam after him is `Ali al Reda. This team is called al Qat`iyah because they passed his death to the Imamah of al Reda.

A group said that Musa al Kathim did not die and that he is alive and will never die until he rules the east of this earth and its west and fills it with justice like it was filled with oppression and that he is al Qa’em al Mahdi]

Where are the texts that state that the number of Imams is Twelve!? The companions of Musa bin Ja`far differ and form five different sects! Has the Imam not said anything? what is apparent from these narrations is that the companions of the Imams not only did they not know who the Imams were, but they never even knew their number, all this nonsense about “twelve infallibles” the Shia of those days didn’t even know these.

And why wouldn’t he die? is he some kind of Jinn? They made Takfeer on the nation because we do not believe in their Imams while they never knew their OWN Imams. They think Musa will come back and rule the east and the west and fill the earth with justice as it was filled with oppression ALL OF IT DREAMS! Illusions! their `Aqeedah is an Illusion!

Their seventh Imam never dies, and he is al-Qa’em al-Mahdi, WHAT A FAILURE THIS RELIGION IS.

Let’s continue reading:

[he is alive and will never die until he rules the east of this earth and its west and fills it with justice just as it was filled with oppression and that he is al Qa’em al Mahdi,
they claimed that he left the prison and no one saw him on that day neither did they know about him, they said that the Sultan and his comrades only claimed his
death as a diversion and they lied to the people]

Which reminds me of the story of the Twelver Shia in our days, because everyone knew that the 11th Imam never had a son, nor did anyone report that his wife was even pregnant, so what did the Twelver Shia do? they invented narrations saying that the Imams are not born like average humans, they are born from the thighs of their mothers since they are pure, and they are born in one day not in nine months like average children, and that when he was born he grew up in one day like an average human would grow up in one month, then he left his house and ran away and no one saw him and he is still alive until this day and he shall appear and fill the earth with justice as it was filled with oppression… the same scenario we see it here, by the same lying Shia.

But do you know something? I’d rather believe the story of these Shia who believed that Musa was the Mahdi rather than believe the story of the Twelver Shia of our days, at least those Shia can prove that Musa bin Ja`far exists, and their story is much less ridiculous try comparing the two and see for yourself.

we continue…

[they said he was occluded(Ghaybah) from the people and he disappeared AND THEY NARRATED NARRATIONS ABOUT THIS FROM HIS FATHER al-Sadiq, that he said: “He(Musa) is al Qa’em al Mahdi and if his head fell down from atop a mountain do not believe this as he is al Qa’em.]

Subhan-Allah! they claimed occultation or Ghaybah for their seventh Imam! now you know where the stupid idea of “Ghaybah” came from, these ridiculous beliefs have been around since the year 183 hijri, who knows maybe even before it because they claimed Mahdawiyyah for many people not just Musa bin Ja`far.

Not only that, these people were all living in Kufa and were all narrating narrations from the infallible Imams to support their beliefs, especially Ja`far al-Sadiq who lived in Madinah among Ahlul-Sunnah. Of course you won’t find many of these narrations today, only bits and scraps since certain other Shia sects never agreed with them.

we continue…

[Some of those said: He is al Qa’em and he died, The Imamah is for no one other than him until his return then they claimed that he returned after his death but he
has disappeared and is in occultation in some land and he is alive and that his companions(emissaries) meet up with him and see him, they used narrations from his father to prove this
such as: “Al Qa’em is called a Qa’em because he makes Qiyam after he dies” (Qiyam meaning he rises after his death).]

Forget about the names of the twelve Imams, where the heck are the narrations about the number of Imams!? it is extremely obvious that the Shia had no idea that the number was even supposed to be Twelve!
More importantly look at the silly Shia stories, the same thing over and over, they claimed that the man is alive, he is the Mahdi, he has disappeared in some location, and only his close companions and “emissaries” can meet up with him, WAKE UP YA SHIA!


[Others amongst them said: he has died and he is al Qa’em and he is like the prophet of Allah `Isa bin Mariam (as), He will not return until his time when

he shall fill the earth with justice as it was filled with oppression, they claimed that Allah said: “He has a likeness to `Isa bin Mariam and he will die by the hands of the children
of bani al-Abbas” and he did die.]

Allahu Akbar! It’s as if you’re debating a Shia online, the same exact lame arguments and the same back-wards retarded logic as their ancestors, you ask them: “How is it that he is still alive for all this time?” they respond: “Isn’t prophet `Isa still alive.” May Allah destroy the deviants and wipe out the deviance!


[Some of them denied his death saying: “He died and Allah raised him to himself and he shall return him in the time of his Qiyam”. All of these teams were called
al-Waqifah because they made Wuquf(meaning they stopped) at Musa bin Ja’afar and claimed that he was the Mahdi, they never took an Imam after him and never passed from his
Imamah to the others after him, some of those who had claimed that he was alive said: “al-Reda and those who raised after him are not Imams but they are Caliphs one after
the other until the time when He(Musa) shall rise again.”]

And these my friends are the Waqifi Shia, and these guys unlike their Fatahi Shia brothers did not add extra Imams, instead they subtracted Imams and denied the Imamah of almost half of the standard twelver Shia Imams.


[And the Waqifah were given a name by some of their opponents who believed in the Imamah of `Ali bin Musa, they called them al-Mamtourah, and this name became famous and
they were known by it, this is because `Ali bin Isma`eel al-Maythami and Yunis bin `Abdul-Rahman debated each-other, and when the discussion became heated ibn Isma`eel said to Yunis:
“You are nothing more than Mamtourah(wet) dogs!” .. He meant that they were filthier than rotten corpses, because if the dogs were exposed to rain they become filthier than a rotten corpse
(….ect…) and this title was exclusive to the companions of Musa bin Ja`far.]

So the Shia were debating each-other, the companions of al-Reda VS the companions of al-Kazim, and it seems that the Waqifah had some really strong arguments and it angered the companions of al-Reda so they started to illustrate those “Akhlaq of Ahlul-Bayt” and he called him a wet dog. of course they had to debate, they couldn’t just all go to `Ali bin Musa and ask him “Are you the Imam?” and then he’d perform a miracle or answer 30,000 questions in one sitting in order to prove that he was an infallible divinely appointed Imam.

Now check out this group here because they’re amazing…

[A group said: We do not know whether he is alive or dead because we narrated a lot of narrations that state that he was al Qa’em al Mahdi and it is impermissible to say they were lies, we have also received the news of the death of his father and grandfathers before him and it is also impermissible to reject these famous clear narrations, death is truth and Allah does what he wills so we stopped from rejecting his death and confirming his life]

This is a Religion!? Seriously, is this a Religion!? What kind of belief is this!? Imagine if the Muslims went to the Kouffar of Quraysh and told them “We have received guidance ad revelation from the prophet of God.” and the Kouffar would say: “Where is your Prophet?” The Muslims will say: “Well… we don’t know, we’re not sure if he’s alive or dead.”

By Allah, is this a religion!? and notice what they said “We narrated a lot of narrations that state that he was al Qa’em al-Mahdi” so I want to address a question to al-Kulayni the author of al-Kafi, I ask: Where are those narrations you filthy pig!!? Where are the narrations you lying Zindeeq!!?

I want the Shia to read this and I want the Shia to know, that these people, these Shia sects, they ALL had plenty of narrations which they claimed that they received from the infallible Imams just like you do.

Let’s see what they decided to do…

[They said: we are still following his(Musa’s) Imamah and we will not accept another Imam until we verify the truthfulness of what he claims – they mean `Ali bin Musa al Reda – If we find truth in his Imamah like the Imamah of his father before him with the proofs and the signs of the Imam in which he confirms it for himself and confirms his father’s death and Not from news and narrations coming from those who claim to be his companions, then we will submit to him and believe him.]

Did you read? “And NOT from the news and narrations of those who claim to be his companions”, I SWEAR TO GOD That the Shia knew they were liars, they knew that all those claiming to be the “companions” of this Imam or that Imam are a bunch of un-trustworthy liars who would fabricate narrations to support their opinions and corrupt beliefs. This is why they would only accept if they heard it from the Imam’s mouth not from his companion’s “narrations”.

So we will stop here, and there are other groups that emerged but I don’t want to waste any more time, we will just stick to the Waqifiyyah and talk about them briefly after we learned about their origins and beliefs.

Ibrahim ibn `Abdul-Hameed, he is a Waqifi who believes in all the things we listed above, what did they say about him?

al-Tusi says in al-Fehrest pg.40:

إبراهيم بن عبدالحميد ثقة، له أصل أخبرنا به أبو عبداللّه محمد بن محمد بن النعمان المفيد

 [Ibrahim bin `Abdul-Hameed, Thiqah, he wrote an Asl, abu `Abdullah Muhammad bin Muhammad bin al-Nu`man al-Mufid told us about it.]

al-Tusi says in his Rijal pg.332:

إبراهيم بن عبد الحميد واقفى

[Ibrahim bin `Abdul-Hameed, Waqifi.]

So this man, is a Waqifi, and he wrote one of their Shia 400 Usool, meaning they are relying in their most fundamental beliefs on an Asl written by a Waqifi. It is as if the Muslims would rely on a book of Hadith written by a Twelver Shia, this is how ridiculous it is.

We explained what these Usool are in a previous thread and we repeat: The Shia Usool are basically 400 books of Hadiths written by the companions of al-Sadiq and al-Baqir.

on pg.351 he says:

إبراهيم بن عبدالحميد من أصحاب أبي عبد اللّه عليه السلام، أدرك الرضا عليه السلام، ولم يسمع منه على قول سعد بن عبداللّه: واقفى، له كتاب

[Ibrahim bin `Abdul-Hameed, from the companions of abu `Abdullah (as), also lived in the time of al-Reda (as) and did not hear from him, according to the saying of Sa`ad bin `Abdullah: Waqifi, he has a book.]

al-Najashi says:

إبراهيم بن عبدالحميد الاسدى، مولاهم، كوفي

[Ibrahim bin `Abdul-Hameed al-Asadi, Mawlahum, Kufi]

Means he is the Mawla and companion of al-Baqir and al-Sadiq, and he is from al-Kufa in `Iraq.

According to al-Tusi, he was from the trustworthy companions of al-Sadiq, he was such a big scholar that he wrote one of their main 400 fundamental Shia Usool, and he lived in the time of al-Reda but didn’t hear narrations from him… and he was a Waqifi!

So we ask, how is it that such a great and knowledgeable, trustworthy companion of the Imams, doesn’t know who the Imams are, or even their number? because the Waqifah obviously did not believe that the number of Imams was twelve. Was there no one in Kufa to tell this great figure that the infallible says that the number of Imams is twelve?

From the Waqifah is also Ishaq ibn Jarir, al-Najashi says:

إسحاق بن جرير بن يزيد بن جرير بن عبد الله البجلي، أبو يعقوب، ثقة، روى عن أبي عبد الله عليه السلام، ذكر ذلك أبو العباس.

[Ishaq bin Jarir bin Yazid bin Jarir bin `Abdullah al-Bajali, Thiqah, narrated from abu `Abdillah (as), abu al-`Abbas mentioned it.]

Tusi in his Fehrest p.54-55:

إسحاق بن جرير.
له أصل، أخبرنا به ابن أبي جيد، عن ابن الوليد، عن الصفار، عن أحمد ابن محمد بن عيسى، عن الحسن بن محبوب، عن إسحاق بن جرير.

[Ishaq bin Jarir, wrote an Asl, we were told about it by ibn abi Jeed, from ibn al-Walid, from al-Saffar, from Ahmad bin Muhammad bin `Isa, from al-Hassan bin Mahboub from Ishaq bin Jarir]

Tusi in his Rijal, pg.332:

24 – إسحاق بن جرير، واقفي.

[Ishaq bin Jarir, Waqifi.]

al-Khoei said in his Mu`jam al-Rijal in his Tarjamah, vol3 pg.200:

عدّه المفيد في رسالته العددية من الفقهاء الاعلام، والرؤساء المأخوذ عنهمالحلال والحرام والفتيا والاحكام، الذين لا يطعن عليهم ولا طريق إلى ذمّ واحد منهم.

[al-Mufid in his “al-Resalah al-`Adadiyah” considered him from the scholars and jurists, and from the leaders that the matters of Halal and Haram should be taken from them, and the Fatwas(verdicts) and Ahkam(rulings) should be taken from them, and that his likes must not be attacked nor should anyone criticize them.]

Imagine, a trustworthy companion of al-Sadiq, who narrates his Ahadith, and wrote one of the Usool, is a Waqifi and does not believe in the Imamah of `Ali al-Reda or his children including the 12th Mahdi, instead he believes in the 7th Mahdi.

Another Waqifi is abu `Abdullah ibn Thabit, al-Khoei said in his Mu`jam vol.22 pg.240:

14501: أبو عبداللّه بن ثابت: تقدّم في ترجمة حميد بن زياد أنه ثقة، ومن رجال الواقفة.

[abu `Abdullah bin Thabit: As stated previously in the Tarjamah of Humayd bin Ziyad that he is a Thiqah, from the men of the Waqifah.]

So let us return to the Tarjamah of Humayd bin Ziyad in al-Khoei’s Mu`jam vol.7 pg.303:

قال أبو غالب الزرادي في رسالته إلى ولده ص 189: ” وسمعت من حميد ابن زياد وأبي عبد الله ابن ثابت، وأحمد بن رماح وهؤلاء من رجال الواقفة، إلا أنهم كانوا فقهاء ثقات في حديثهم كثيري الدراية

[abu Ghalib al-Zurari said in his Resalah to his son, pg.189: “I heard(narrations) from Humayd ibn Ziyad and abu `Abdullah ibn Thabit, and Ahmad bin Ramah and they are from the men of the Waqifah, although they were reliable jurists in their narrations with vast understanding.]

As you’ve just seen these men have gathered two important qualities, the trustworthiness of their narrations, the second quality is their Dirayah or in other words the accurate understanding of religious texts, so notice how these men are being described, and then think about the fact that they lived and died with the Imams, narrated from the Imams, and never knew the Imams.

Why do the Shia scholars say “There is no way to criticize them?” why don’t they quote their favorite narration about people going to hell if they never knew the Imam of their time?

Another one is Ahmad bin abi Bishr al-Sarraj, al-Najashi says in his Rijal:

أحمد بن أبي بشر السرّاج: كوفي، مولى، يكنّى أبا جعفر، ثقة في الحديث، واقف، روى عن موسى بن جعفر عليه السلام، وله كتاب نوادر

[Ahmad bin abi Bishr al-Sarraj: Kufi, Mawla, his Kuniyah is abu Ja`far, Thiqah in Hadith, Waqif, narrated from Musa bin Ja`far (as), and he has a book of Nawadir.]

Keep in mind we’re not talking about dumb ignorant laypeople, these are great scholars of Usool and they supposedly laid the foundations of the entire Shia Madhab, they have narrated directly from the Imams and had a very good understanding of what they were talking about.

Another guy, Ahmad bin al-Hassan bin Isma`eel, al-Najashi says:

أحمد بن الحسن بن إسماعيل بن شعيب بن ميثم التمّار، مولى بني أسد. قال أبو عمرو الكشّي: كان واقفاً، وذكر هذا عن حمدويه، عن الحسن بن موسى الخشّاب، قال: أحمد بن الحسن واقف، وقد روى عن الرضا عليه السلام، وهو على كلّ حال ثقة، صحيح الحديث، معتمد عليه، له كتاب النوادر.

[Ahmad bin al-Hassan bin Isma`eel bin Shu`ayb bin Maytham al-Tammar, Mawla bani Asad. abu `Amro al-Kishshi said: He was a Waqifi, and he mentioned it from Hamdaweih, from al-Hassan bin Musa al-Khashshab, he said: He narrated from al-Reda (as), and he is a Thiqah eitherway, his Hadith is Sahih and relied upon, he has a book of Nawadir.]

al-Khoei said in his Tarjamah #489:

عدّه الشيخ في رجاله من أصحاب الكاظم عليه السلام (30)، قائلاً: (أحمد ابن الحسن الميثمي، واقفى).

[al-Sheikh(Tusi) counted him among the companions of al-Kazim (as) he said: “Ahmad bin al-Hassan al-Maythami, Waqifi.”]

Notice dear reader that the man is a Waqifi, he does not believe in the Imamah of al-Reda, yet he narrates Ahadith from al-Reda!

Also we mention Humayd ibn Ziyad, al-Najashi said:

حميد بن زياد بن حماد بن حماد بن زياد، هوارا الدهقان أبو القاسم، كوفي سكن سورا وانتقل إلى نينوى – قرية على العلقمي إلى جنب الحائر على صاحبه السلام – كان ثقة واقفا وجها فيهم، سمع الكتب وصنف كتاب الجامع في أنواع الشرائع، كتاب الخمس، كتاب الدعاء، كتاب الرجال، كتاب من روى عن الصادق عليه السلام، وكتاب الفرائض، كتاب الدلائل، كتاب ذم من خالف الحق وأهله، كتاب فضل العلم والعلماء، كتاب الثلاث والاربع، كتاب النوادر وهو كتاب كبير. أخبرنا أحمد بن علي بن نوح، قال: حدثنا الحسين بن علي بن سفيان، قال: قرأت على حميد بن زياد كتابه كتاب الدعاء، وأخبرنا الحسين بن عبيد الله، قال: حدثنا أحمد بن جعفر بن سفيان، عن حميد بكتبه. قال: قال أبو المفضل الشيباني: أجازنا سنة عشرة وثلاثمائة، وقال أبو الحسن علي بن حاتم: لقيته سنة ست وثلاثمائة، وسمعت منه كتابه الرجال قراءة وأجاز لنا كتبه، ومات حميد سنة عشر وثلاثمائة

[Humayd bin Ziyad bin Hamad bin Hamad bin Ziyad, Hawara al-Dahqan abu al-Qassem, from Kufah, he moved to (the village) Ninawa, he was a Thiqah, a Waqifi, from the best. He heard the books and wrote Kitab al-Jami` fi Anwa` al-Shara’i` (…until he says…) abu al-Hassan `Ali bin Hatim said: I met him in the year 306 hijri, and heard from him his book of Rijal which he read to us and gave us Ijazah to his books, and he died in the year 310 hijri]

I want the Shia to notice before the Muslims, these Shia groups and religions we’re talking about, they aren’t just small groups that appeared for two or three years then disappeared, this man was one of the major scholars of the Shia in his time and one of their greatest of all times, and he died when? he died in 310 after Hijrah! Musa al-Kazim had died around 180 after Hijra, and when was the time of occultation or Ghaybah of your supposedly 12th Imam? it was around 260 after Hijrah, so this Shia Waqifi scholar died during the time of Ghaybah of your “Mahdi” and he never believed that he existed nor did he believe that there was a 12th Imam!

al-Tusi says in his Rijal:

عالم جليل، واسع العلم كثير التصانيف

[Dignified scholar, with vast knowledge and lots of books]

Will the Shia readers PLEASE concentrate and think about what is being said in their books? if you check a-Tusi’s Fehrest you will realize that this man narrated a lot of your Usool and books of Hadith, yet he still remains a Waqifi, WHY!? Did he not come across the narrations about the names of the Imams!? Did he not come across the narrations which mention the number of Imams!? surely if these narrations existed then they must have reached him.

This is from al-Fehrest:

حميد بن زياد، من أهل نينوى، قرية إلى جانب الحائر على ساكنه السلام، ثقة، كثير التصانيف، روى الأصول أكثرها، له كتب كثيرة على عدد كتب الأصول.
[Humayd ibn Ziyad, from the people of Ninawa, Thiqah, with lots of works, narrated most of the Usool, he has many books, as much as the number of Usool.]

Without a doubt the best Shia scholar of his time, he was aware of almost every single narration from the Imams as well as the men who narrated them since he had a book of Rijal, yet he never believed in the 12 Imams.

Another Waqifi, Idris ibn al-Fadl, al-Najashi says in his Rijal pg.103-104:

إدريس بن الفضل بن سليمان الخولاني أبو الفضل كوفي، واقف، ثقة، له كتاب الأدب،كتاب الطهارة، كتاب الصلاة.
[Idris bin al-Fadl bin Suleiman al-Khawalani abu al-Fadl al-Kufi, Waqif, Thiqah, he has a book of Adab, a book of Taharah, and a book of Salat.]

So this is another “wet dog” who is a Thiqah according to the Twelvers.

Now al-Hassan bin Muhammad bin Sama`ah, al-Tusi says in al-Fehrest:

33 – الحسن بن محمد بن سماعة الكوفي، واقفي المذهب، الا انه
جيد التصانيف، نقي الفقه، حسن الانتقاد. وله ثلاثون كتابا، منها: كتاب القبلة، كتاب الصلاة، كتاب الصيام، كتاب الشراء والبيع، كتاب الفرائض، كتاب النكاح، كتاب الطلاق، كتاب الحيض، كتاب وفاة أبي عبد الله عليه السلام، كتاب الطهور، كتاب السهو، كتاب المواقيت، كتاب الزهد، كتاب البشارات، كتاب الدلائل، كتاب العبادات، كتاب الغيبة.
ومات ابن سماعة سنة ثلاث وستين ومائتين في جمادي الأولى
[al-Hassan bin Muhammad bin Sama`ah al-Kufi, his Madhab is Waqifi, be he has good books, pure Fiqh, and good comments. he has thirty books, from them: Kitab al-Qiblah, Kitab al-Siyam, Kitab al-Salat, (…ect…) Book on the death of abi `Abdillah (as), book of Tuhour, book of Sahu, book of Mawaqit, book of Zuhd, book of Bisharat, book of Dala’el, book of `Ibadat, book of Ghaybah.
And ibn Sama`ah died in the year 263 after Hijrah, during the month of Jamadi al-Awwal.]

al-Najashi says in his Rijal pg.40-41:

الحسن بن محمد بن سماعة أبو محمد الكندي الصيرفي من شيوخ الواقفة كثير الحديث فقيه ثقة وكان يعاند في الوقف ويتعصب.
[al-Hassan bin Muhammad bin Sama`ah abu Muhammad al-Kindi al-Sayrafi, from the scholars of the Waqifah, narrates a lot of Hadith, a Faqih(jurtist), a Thiqah, and he used to be a stubborn extreme Waqifi.]

And you should read why they say that he was stubborn, it’s written in al-Najashi and al-Khoei’s Mu`jam, a very funny story about the 10th Shia Imam knowing the future and the time of death of some people, and then some guy informs ibn Sama`ah of this story so he denies that anyone could know such things thus they started saying he was a stubborn Waqifi… because he denied an un-Islamic story by some guy they branded him as an “extremist stubborn Waqifi.”

Same story again, another renowned trustworthy Shia scholar, dies in the time of the Ghaybah of the 12th Imam and doesn’t even believe in him, where are the narrations of the Imams? when the renowned jurists and Fuqaha’ and Muhaddiths of the Shia, who transmitted the narrations of Ahlul-Bayt to the likes of Kulayni and Saduq, and lived in the time of the Imams never knew who the Imams were or their number?

Now al-Hanan ibn Sadeer, al-Jawahiri said in al-Mufid min Mu`jam Rijal a-Hadith:

4102 – 4101 – 4110 – حنان بن سدير: بن حكيم بن صهيب، أبو الفضل الصيرفي، واقفي – ثقة – من أصحاب الصادق، والكاظم (ع) – روى في كامل الزيارات – روى في تفسير القمي
[Hanan bin Sadeer: bin Hakeem bin Suhayb, abu al-Fadl al-Sayrafi, Waqifi – Thiqah – from the companions of al-Sadiq and al-Kazim (as) – narrated in Kamil al-Ziyarat – narrated in Tafseer al-Qummi]

Trustworthy companion of two Imams, narrates their Ahadith, and doesn’t know the names or number of Imams.

Dawood ibn Hosayn, al-Khoei talks about him in his Mu`jam #4391:

قال النجاشي: داود بن حصين الاسدى: مولاهم، كوفى، ثقة، روى عن أبي عبد اللّه وأبي الحسن عليهما السلام
[al-Najashi said: Dawood ibn Hosayn al-Asadi: their Mawla, Kufi, Thiqah, narrated from abu `Abdillah (as) and abu al-Hassan (as)]

Then al-Khoei states what al-Tusi says in his regard:

وعدّه في رجاله مع توصيفه بالكوفي في أصحاب الصادق عليه السلام (14) وفي أصحاب الكاظم عليه السلام (5) قائلاً: واقفى.
[And he(Tusi) counted him in his Rijal as a Kufi from the companions of al-Sadiq (as) and al-Kazim (as), saying: Waqifi.]

Masha-Allah these companions of the Imams are receiving some major guidance it seems.

Zur`ah bin Muhammad, al-Khoei states the opinions of the scholars in his Tarjamah #4676:

قال النجاشي: زرعة بن محمد أبو محمد الحضرمى، ثقة، روى عن أبي عبد اللّه،وأبي الحسن عليهما السلام، وكان صحب سماعة، وأكثر عنه ووقف.
[al-Najashi said: Zur`ah bin Muhammad abu Muhammad al-Hadrami, Thiqah, narrated from abu `Abdillah (as) and abu al-Hassan (as), he accompanied Sama`ah and narrated a lot from him, and he made Wuquf]

Then al-Khoei reports the opinion of al-Tusi:

…وقال الشيخ (315): (زرعة بن محمد الحضرمى: واقفي المذهب، له أصل أخبرنا به عدّة من أصحابنا، عن محمد بن علي بن بابويه، عن أبيه
وكيف كان فقد عدّه الشيخ في رجاله من أصحاب الصادق عليه السلام (98) وفي أصحاب الكاظم عليه السلام (2) قائلاً: واقفى.
[al-Sheikh(Tusi) said: Zur`ah bin Muhammad al-Hadrami: His Madhab is Waqifi, he wrote an Asl, We were told about it by some of our companions, from Muhammad bin `Ali bin Babaweih, from his father (ect…)
And eitherway, the Sheikh(Tusi) has counted him in his Rijal among the companions of al-Sadiq (as) and the companions of al-Kazim (as), saying: Waqifi.]

Another of the trustworthy companions of the Imams and a knowledgeable scholar of Shia Hadith who wrote one of their Usool is a Waqifi who doesn’t know the names or numbers of Imams.

Ziyad bin Marwan al-Qandi, al-Jawahiri summarizes the opinion of al-Khoei in al-Mufid min al-Mu`jam:

4802 – 4801 – 4811 – زياد بن مروان: أبو الفضل – من أصحاب الصادق، والكاظم (ع) – روى عن أبي عبد الله وأبي الحسن (ع) وقف على
الرضا (ع) قاله النجاشي – من أركان الواقفة – له كتاب – خبيث جحد حق الرضا (ع) لكن مع ذلك هو ثقة – روى في كامل الزيارات – روى 13 رواية، منها عن أبي الحسن، وأبي إبراهيم (ع)
[Ziyad bin Marwan: abu al-Fadl – from the companions of al-Sadiq and al-Kazim (as) – narrated from abu `Abdillah and abu al-Hassan (as), made Wuquf on al-Reda (as) as stated by al-Najashi. He is from the pillars of the Waqifah – has a book – He is evil, he rejected the right of al-Reda (as) but nonetheless he remains a Thiqah – narrated in Kamil al-Ziyarat – 13 narrations from abu al-Hassan and abu Ibrahim (as)]

They say the man is EVIL and he outright rejected the divine right of al-Reda (as) but for some reason he is a Thiqah, WHY? go to his Tarjamah in Mu`jam Rijal al-Hadith of al-Khoei #4811 and you’ll read:

وقول الحسن بن محبوب: أنه مات زنديقاً ولكنه مع ذلك ثقة لاجل أنّ كتابه من الاصول
[And the saying of al-Hassan bin Mahboub: He died as a Zindeeq but he remains a Thiqah because the book he wrote is from the Usool.]

Allahu Akbar! The Twelver Shia are taking the fundamentals of their religion and Hadith from an EVIL ZINDEEQ!!!

Now this next guy has the exact same beliefs, but for some reason he is not an Evil Zindeeq, `Abdul-Kareem bin `Amro al-Khath`ami, we read in his Tarjamah by al-Khoei #6629:

قال النجاشي: عبدالكريم بن عمرو بن صالح الخثعمى، مولاهم، كوفى، روى عن أبي عبداللّه وأبي الحسن عليهما السلام، ثم وقف على أبي الحسن عليه السلام! كان ثقة ثقة عيناً، يلقّب كرام.
[al-Najashi said: `Abdul-Kareem bin `Amro bin Saleh al-Khath`ami, their Mawla, Kufi, narrated from abu `Abdullah (as) and abu al-Hassan (as), then made Wuquf on abu al-Hassan (as)! He was a Thiqah Thiqah `Ayn, had the title of Karram.]

This guy is not an evil Zindeeq, instead he is extremely trustworthy and reliable described by Najashi as “Thiqah Thiqah `Ayn”! from the companions of al-Sadiq and al-Kazim yet he believes Musa al-Kazim was the Mahdi and rejects the Imamah of `Ali al-Reda.

What a “clear” religion, the least we can say is that if AT LEAST these Shia knew that the number of Imams was twelve they wouldn’t believe in what they believe.

al-Hassan bin `Ali al-Ta’ee known as al-Tatiri, al-Tusi says about him in his Fehrest:

17 – علي بن الحسن الطاطري الكوفي 1، كان واقفيا شديد العناد في مذهبه، صعب العصبية على من خالفه من الامامية. وله كتب كثيرة في نصرة مذهبه، وله كتب في الفقه، رواها عن الرجال الموثوق بهم وبرواياتهم، فلأجل ذلك ذكرناها، منها: كتاب الحيض، وكتاب المواقيت، وكتاب القبلة، وكتاب فضائل أمير المؤمنين عليه السلام، وكتاب الصداق، وكتاب النكاح، وكتاب الولاية، وكتاب المعرفة، وكتاب الفطرة، وكتاب حجج الطلاق، وقيل: إنها أكثر من ثلاثين كتابا.
[`Ali bin al-Hassan al-Tatiri al-Kufi, he was a Waqifi very stubborn in his Madhab, very extreme against those who oppose him from the Imamiyyah. Has many books to support his Madhab, and books in Fiqh, which he narrated from the trustworthy narrators, which is why we mentioned from them: Book of Hayd, book of Mawaqeet, book of Qiblah, book of virtues of Ameer al-Mumineen (as), book of Sadaq, book of Nikah, book of Wilayah, (ect…) And it is said: they are more than thirty books.]

al-Jawahiri said in al-Mufeed:

8016 – 8014 – 8028 – علي بن الحسن بن محمد الطائي: الجرمي المعروف بالطاطري من أصحاب الكاظم (ع) – ثقة – من وجوه الواقفة وشيوخهم قاله النجاشي
[`Ali bin al-Hassan bin Muhammad al-Ta’ee: al-Jurami, known as al-Tatiri from the companions of al-Kazim (as) -Thiqah – from the best of the Waqifah and their scholars as stated by Najashi.]

This shia Faqih is so trustworthy that he doesn’t believe in the last five Imams including the Mahdi and wrote books to prove that al-Kazim was the last Imam and the Mahdi.

Ghalib bin `Uthman al-Munqari, al-Jawahiri placed him in his Mufeed:

9259 – 9258 – 9277 – غالب بن عثمان: واقفي من أصحاب الكاظم (ع) له كتاب، قاله الشيخ وطريقه اليه صحيح – روى 21 رواية، منها عن
أبي عبد الله (ع) – روى في كامل الزيارات – متحد مع لاحقه الثقة -.
9260 – 9259 – 9278 – غالب بن عثمان المنقري: مولى كوفي سمال بمعنى كحال – ثقة – من أصحاب الصادق (ع) – روى عن أبي عبد الله (ع) قاله
النجاشي – له كتاب – وذكره الشيخ قائلا ” غالب بن عثمان المنقري مولاهم السمال الكوفي ” – متحد مع سابقه.
[Ghalib bin `Uthman: Waqifi from the companions of al-Kazim (as), he has a book (ect…)
Ghalib bin `Uthman al-Munqari: Mawla Kufi, Samal meaning Kahhal, – Thiqah – from the companions of al-Sadiq (as), narrated from abu `Abdillah (as) as stated by Najashi…]

Another trustworthy Shia who narrates from two Imams and accompanies them and writes their Hadith, yet knows nothing about the Imams.

One last small example, Muhammad bin Bakr bin Janah, al-Jawahiri said:

10321 – 10316 – 10343 – محمد بن بكر بن جناح: أبو عبد الله كوفي مولى – ثقة – من أصحاب الكاظم (ع) – له كتاب – واقفي – روى عدة روايات – و هو غير بكر بن محمد بن جناح
[Muhammad bin Bakr bin Janah: abu `Abdullah, Kufi, Mawla -Thiqah – from the companions of al-Kazim (as) – He has a book – Waqifi – narrated several narrations – and he is not Bakr bin Muhammad bin Janah]

Enough examples from the Waqifi Shia, now to conclude…

Whether we are talking about the Fatahiyyah which we previously discussed or the Waqifiyyah which we just discussed above, we can’t help but notice that these men are all together in Kufa, all living at the same time, all hearing the exact same stories or narrations which circulated in Kufa, yet we see this major difference, and they have accompanied al-Sadiq and his father or his son and we all know that al-Sadiq narrated almost all the narrations of the twelver Shia, maybe around 23,000 narrations in their books, so all of these narrations were available at the time, even though the Shia were in Kufa and the Imams were in Madinah and even though the Shia scholars keep claiming that they were times of Taqqiyah, yet this huge load of narrations traveled from Madinah to Kufa in some way as they claim, and these Shia had access to these same narrations, especially the renowned scholars among them and the companions of the Imams… So how come it appears to me that the Shia of those days had absolutely no idea about who the Imams are, and what was their number!?

May Allah save us from following our desires and our own hand-made religions.


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