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Manipulation of Pro Ismaili Shia Hadith by Twelver Shias

-=[Twelver Shia Manipulation of Ismaeli Hadith]

While reading Ali ibn Babawayh’s Al-Imamah wal Tabsira, and comparing its contents to other Shia works, I stumbled upon a fascinating narration that implicates Twelvers of manipulating Isma’eeli reports.

Ja’afar Al-Sadiq is rebuking his son Abdullah, saying to him: “Why can’t you be like your brother? By Allah, I see the light in his face!”

Abdullah responds: “Don’t we have the same father? Don’t we have the same mother?”

Ja’afar says: “Isma’eel is from me and you are my son.”

This report can be understood in two ways. It can be seen as a general praise for Ismaeel. It can also be seen as evidence that he’s the next Imam. This itself is clear from the praise given.

What leads to this conclusion is: – that he is “from his father” – the light in his face – that Al-Sadiq also doesn’t ask Abdullah to be like Musa instead

Al-Kulayni then narrates the exact same report, with the SAME chain of narrators, but removes Isma’eel’s name and substitutes it with “my son.” He includes this report in the section called Chapter of Evidence for Musa.

Why was the word left ambigious though? Why did it say: “My son” instead of an explicit “Musa”? My guess is that whoever tampered with the hadith (most likely Al-Kulayni) didn’t want to flat out lie about it.

Instead, he narrated the hadith as per its meaning, since Isma’eel and Musa are both sons of Ja’afar. Though, he had to keep it ambiguous so that this wouldn’t be used as evidence for Isma’eel. Of course, placing it in a chapter about evidence for Musa is clearly foul play.

It is a shame that we do not have access to many Isma’eeli texts that provide their evidence for the Imamah of Isma’eel. I’m sure we would find many more examples of these if they were available to us.



Original narration in Ali ibn Babawayh’s Al-Imamah wal Tabsira


Tampered narration in Al-Kulayni’s al-Kafi

Originally posted on twitter by brother Farid :

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Shia scholar: Parts of Quran oppose Allah’s revelation

Ali bin Ibrahim al-Qummi author of the classical Twelver Shia commentary of the Quran, Tafsir al-Qummi, says in the introduction that some of the verse in the Quran oppose what Allah has revealed and he provides an example using Shia Hadiths attributed to Ahlulbayt.  This is just one of the tons of examples that he mentions in his Tafsir.

On page 5 of volume one where he is explaining the various contents of the Qur’an, he says some parts of it are abrogated and others are abrogating, some parts are explicit and others are vague, some parts of it are general and others are specific… then he says:

ومنه على خلاف ما انزل الله

“And some parts of it oppose what Allah has revealed.”

Then he even gives further examples as to what he means on page 10, he says:

واما ما هو كان على خلاف ما انزل الله فهو قوله ” كنتم خير امة اخرجت للناس تأمرون بالمعروف وتنهون عن المنكر وتؤمنون بالله ” فقال ابوعبدالله عليه السلام لقاري هذه الآية ” خير امة ” يقتلون امير المؤمنين والحسن والحسين بن علي عليه السلام؟ فقيل له وكيف نزلت يابن رسول الله؟ فقال انما نزلت ” كنتم خير ائمة اخرجت للناس

[As for what opposes what Allah revealed, then it is like his saying {You were the best nation brought forth for mankind, you enjoin what is good and forbid what is evil and believe in Allah} Abu `Abdillah (as) said to the one who recited this verse: “Best nation!?” They killed `Ali and Hasan and Husayn (as)!? They said: “Then how was it revealed O son of Rasul-Allah (saw)?” He said: It was revealed as {You were the best Imams brought forth for mankind}]

And he gives other examples of verses he believes were corrupted by the companions to hide the virtues of the Imams.

Originally posted here.

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Hadith of the Bird (al-Ṭayr) Analysis

Detailed analysis and takhrij of the chains of the Hadith of the Bird or Ḥadīth al-Ṭayr.

The narration goes like this:

Anas Ibn Malik narrated: I was serving the Messenger of Allah and a roasted bird was presented to the Messenger of Allah. He said, “O Allah, bring me the most beloved of your creation to share this bird with me.” I said, “O Allah, make it a man from the Ansar.” Ali, May Allah be pleased with him, came and I said to him, “The Messenger of Allah is engaged in something.” He came again and I said, “The Messenger of Allah is engaged in something.” He came again and the Messenger of Allah said, “Open the door,” and so he entered and the Messenger of Allah said, “What is your business, O Ali?” He said, “This is the third time I came by and on each occasion Anas sent me away. He claimed you were engaged in something.” He said, “Why did you do what you did?” I said, “O Messenger of Allah, I heard your supplication and I liked it to be someone from my people.” The Messenger of Allah said, “The man loves his people.”

The response can be read on the following link:

Hadith at-Tayir. Analyses.

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The New Muslim’s Guide to “Sunni or Shia?”

The best guide for the new Muslims / Converts / Reverts on the Sunni & Shia issue. (Also available in PDF)

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Famous Shia website lie upon Imam Fakhr al-Din al-Razi

Major Shia website blatantly lie upon Imam Fakhruddin ar-Razi and what he said in his Quranic commentary Tafsir al-Kabir regarding the verse 33 of Surah Ahzab (or “Ayat Tathir” or “verse of Purification”).


Salam ‘alaikum.

Here a screenshot I made:


Here the relevant part of what Fakhr Al-Din actually said:
ثم قال تعالى : ( إنما يريد الله ليذهب عنكم الرجس أهل البيت ويطهركم تطهيرا ) .

ثم إن الله تعالى ترك خطاب المؤنثات وخاطب بخطاب المذكرين بقوله : ( ليذهب عنكم الرجس ) ليدخل فيه نساء أهل بيته ورجالهم ، واختلفت الأقوال في أهل البيت . والأولى أن يقال : هم أولاده وأزواجه والحسن والحسين منهم وعلي منهم لأنه كان من أهل بيته بسبب معاشرته ببنت النبي عليه السلام  ..

Then He (Allah) says:

[And abide in your houses and do not display yourselves as [was] the display of the former times of ignorance. And establish prayer and give zakah and obey Allah and His Messenger.] Allah intends only to remove from you the impurity [of sin], O people of the [Prophet’s] household, and to purify you with [extensive] purification.

[…]thereon, Allah the Most High stopped addressing the wives only and INCLUDED the males of the Ahl Al-Bayt (‘ANKUM AR-RIJS) so that the WOMEN and men of the Ahl Al-Bayt were both included and there have been differences of opinion about who are meant with Ahl Al-Bayt. The most correct statement is:

They (his Ahl Al-Bayt) are his children and WIVES, and Al-Hassan and Al-Hussein are from them (his children) and Ali is from them, because he (Ali) is from his Ahl Al-Bayt due to him having lived (in the house) of the Prophet […]
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When will Shia websites stop lying and misquoting Sunni scholars?

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Shia preacher Azhar Nasser plagiarises Nouman Ali Khan’s lecture word for word

Shia scholar Azhar Nasser plagiarises Nouman Ali Khan’s speech word for word. He has also been caught stealing other people’s tweets and share them as his own. He first got the attention of the Sunni Defense team when he insulted a prominent companion of the Prophet (saw).

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Discussion at the Local Shia Mosque

Salaam alaykum wa rahmatullah,

At the outset, I would like to thank Allah (swt) without Whom knowledge would not have reached us and after sending peace and blessings upon the Prophet (saw), Ahlul Bayt (ra) and Sahaba (ra), I would like to thank the brothers on this forum for equipping me with tools to defend authentic Islam.

After a long time, I decided to go to dhikr today (as some of you might recall, I attend Naqshbandi dhikr).  Dhikr takes place every Saturday in Maryland (an adjacent state to the one I live in) and on the way, I pass by a Shia mosque.  Traditionally, I take the exit, visit the Shia mosque, offer Asr prayers and then continue down the highway to the zawiyah.  It was no different today except it was snowing and I noticed some commotion at the Shia mosque which, usually on Saturday afternoons, is either quiet or closed.

Post-Asr, I went to the zawiyah and found out that dhikr had been canceled, thanks to snow.  The email was sent literally 30 minutes before dhikr so I was a bit upset.  In order to pray maghrib, I thought I’d drive back to the Shia mosque and pray there (since it was on my way back and due to its proximity, it would afford me to offer maghrib before it expired).

When I got to the Shia mosque, Continue reading

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