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Major Shia website claims the real Quran is with the 12th Imam

بسم الله الرحمن الرحیم

Shia website states:

[Ali’s utmost desire was to see Islam and the Arabs in one piece and wanted the enemies of Islam to realize that Islam was strong enough to defend itself as “Deen”. even after the demise of the Apostle of God.,He had another important job to complete that is the completion of the collection of Qur’an with its Tafseer (explanations) according to the instructions of the Holy Prophet. Qur’an as a bwas already completed by the Holy Prophet, many copies were made and circulated among the muslim communities all over the Islamic world.

What Ali did in the next six months after the demise of the Holy Prophet was to collect all the explanations of the various verses, reasons behind their revelation and their full context. This monumental job he completed in six months and brought before the muslims in the city of the Prophet. Unfortunately this was ignored by the ruling party and Ali(AS) took it back with him.Their comment was “this is too bulky and people will not understand it.”

The original remained with Ali (AS) all his life and then passed on to his son Hasan (AS) and then to Hussain (AS) which then continued with the Ahlulbayt of the Prophet. It is now with the 12th Imam (AS).]


[Story of the Holy Ka’aba And its People

By S.M.R. Shabbar

Published by Muhammadi Trust of Great Britain

An effort of the Ahlul Bayt Digital Islamic Library Project team]

On a different page the same website says:

[…The Quran and its commentary which were collected by
Imam Ali (AS) is not available for any Shia in the world except to the Imam Mahdi (AS). If the transcript of the Commander of Believers had been
accepted, that would have been the Quran with unique commentary in the hand of people, but it turned out to be otherwise.]


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Does the Iranian Constitution agree with the Imami Shia faith?

al-Salamu `Aleykum,

Here are some of the articles from the constitution of the Iranian Republic:

Article 5

During the Occultation of the Wali al-Asr (may God hasten his reappearance), the wilayah and leadership of the Ummah devolve upon the just (‘adil] and pious [muttaqi] faqih, who is fully aware of the circumstances of his age; courageous, resourceful, and possessed of administrative ability, will assume the responsibilities of this office in accordance with Article 107.

 Article 107

After the demise of the eminent marji’ al-taqlid and great leader of the universal Islamic revolution, and founder of the Islamic Republic of Iran, Ayatullah al-‘Uzma Imam Khumayni – quddisa sirruh al-sharif – who was recognized and accepted as marji’ and Leader by a decisive majority of the people, the task of appointing the Leader shall be vested with the experts elected by the people. The experts will review and consult among themselves concerning all the fuqaha’ possessing the qualifications specified in Articles 5 and 109. In the event they find one of them better versed in Islamic regulations, the subjects of the fiqh, or in political and social Issues, or possessing general popularity or special prominence for any of the qualifications mentioned in Article 109, they shall elect him as the Leader. Otherwise, in the absence of such a superiority, they shall elect and declare one of them as the Leader. The Leader thus elected by the Assembly of Experts shall assume all the powers of the wilayat al-amr and all the responsibilities arising therefrom. The Leader is equal with the rest of the people of the country in the eyes of law.

 Article 6

In the Islamic Republic of Iran, the affairs of the country must be administered on the basis of public opinion expressed by the means of elections, including the election of the President, the representatives of the Islamic Consultative Assembly, and the members of councils, or by means of referenda in matters specified in other articles of this Constitution.

Article 7

In accordance with the command of the Qur’an contained in the verse (“Their affairs are by consultations among them” [42:38]) and (“Consult them in affairs” [3:159]), consultative bodies – such as the Islamic Consultative Assembly, the Provincial Councils, and the City, Region, District, and Village Councils and the likes of them – are the decision-making and administrative organs of the country. The nature of each of these councils, together with the manner of their formation, their jurisdiction, and scope of their duties and functions, is determined by the Constitution and laws derived from it.

— END —

Let’s compare this garbage the deceivers made up to the gibberish written in the famous Shia website “al-Islam”, let’s compare it to the book they uploaded called “Imamate: The Vicegerency of the Prophet (s) by Sayyid Sa’eed Akhtar Rizvi”:

[When Allah orders that man to do something yet is aware that man cannot do it or that it is very difficult without His assistance, then if Allah does not provide this assistance, He would be contradicting His own aim. Obviously, such negligence is evil according to reason. Therefore lutf is incumbent on Allah.]

^ So Allah orders the Shia to follow the Imams of Ahlul-Bayt (who are only 12), yet they are unavailable today thus according to this introduction Allah is evil Astaghfirullah!

[The Shi’ahs believe that, like the Prophet, an Imam should excel the ummah in all virtues, such as knowledge, bravery, piety and charity, and should possess complete knowledge of the Divine Law. If he does not, and this high post is entrusted to a less perfect person when a more perfect one is available, the inferior will have been given preference over the superior, which is wrong in reason and against Divine Justice. Therefore, no inferior person may receive Imamate from Allah when there exists a person superior to him.]

^ The Shia will tell you the Mahdi exists yet they are being led by Khamine’i, this means they are committing great injustice.

[Secondly, an Imam is the ruler and head of the ummah and the ummah should follow him unreservedly in every matter. Now, if he commits a sin the people would be bound to follow him in that sin as well. The untenability of such a position is self-evident; for obedience in sin is evil, unlawful and forbidden. Moreover, it would mean that he should be obeyed and disobeyed at one and the same time; that is, obedience to him would be obligatory yet forbidden, which is manifestly absurd.]

^ Which means that following Khomeini was absurd since he’s liable to err.

[Fourthly, the Imam is the defender of the Divine Law and this work cannot be entrusted to fallible hands nor can any such person maintain it properly. For this very reason, infallibility has been admitted to be an indispensable condition to prophethood; and the considerations which make it essential in the case of a prophet make it so in the case of an Imam and caliph as well.]

^ If infallibility was essential then why elect a fallible man like Ahmadi Nijad and follow him?

[It is for this reason that the Shi’ah Ithna ‘Asharis (The Twelvers) believe that only Allah can appoint a successor to the Prophet; that the ummah has no choice in this matter-its only duty is to follow such a divinely-appointed Imam or caliph.

The Sunnis, on the other hand, believe that it is the duty of the ummah to appoint a caliph.]

^ Apparently the Iranians adopted a “Sunni” constitution then.

[The following verses of the Qur’an confirm the views held by the Shi’ahs:

And thy Lord creates what He wills and chooses; they have no right to choose; glory be to Allah, and exalted be He above what they associate! (28:68).

This clearly shows that man has no right to make any selection; it lies entirely in the hands of Allah.]

^ This is pure Shia genius right here, I’m guessing it also means I cannot make the choice of going to the toilet or what pattern is my apartment wallpaper going to be.

[If the ma’sum (infallible) angels were given no say in the appointment of a caliph, how can fallible humans expect to take the whole authority of such an appointment in their own hands?]

^ Ask your 13th Imam Khomeini.

I do not wish to refute this entire funny book, but just to show the readers how this Shia religion is evolving through time, in their old books everything was about Imamah and Imams, and now they brushed them aside, they have no further need of “Imams”, the fallible Ayatullas now pick and choose whom they want and run the country based on the opinions of the majority of people.

Salam Aleykum,


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The Reason Behind Contradicting Shia Hadiths

Alsalam alaykum,

I mentioned this briefly with some of the brothers a few days ago and one of them suggested that I make a thread of it.

The reason I believe that there are so many contradictions in Shiasm, which is attested by the fact that the third biggest Shia book is a book that attempts to reconcile these contradictions (Al-Istibsaar), is because there were so many people attributing different things to the Imams of their time from Al-Kufa.

As most of you know, the Kufans were the “companions” of the Imams in Shiasm. In Sunnism, many narrators of the Al-Sadiq and Al-Baqir were the people of Al-Madinah, which makes sense since this is where both Imams lived.

My firm belief is that each Kufan who wanted to have a religious ruling applied chose to attribute it to the Imams of their time instead of making a religious ruling himself and claiming that it is his own opinion. This way, the opinion has more weight. Be aware that Al-Sadiq, during this time, did have Imamah status. This is documented by Ibn Sa’ad in his Tabaqat and it was Al-Mu’alla bin Khunais that spread this view according to the uncles of Al-Sadiq himself.

In any case, due to this, one Kufan would fabricate a tradition, in which he would say that “Al-Sadiq said that Muta’a is halal.” However, another narrator would say, “No, he said that it was haram!” Then, a third narrator would say, “I heard him say that it is mustahab,” and the fourth would claim that it is makrooh, and so on and so forth, with none of these Kufans having ever had the actual chance to meet Al-Sadiq.

Now, in light of these contradicting opinions, the people of Kufa were lost, since we have all these people claiming that they heard these things from the Imams, so who does one choose? So, one day, when one narrator said that he heard Al-Sadiq say that such and such is haram, a smart narrator said, “No, I heard him say that it is halal, and I also heard him say that you are mal’oon!” The other narrator shot back, “That’s funny, because I heard him say that YOU are mal’oon.” Then, a third narrator came and said, “Both of you are mal’oon upon the tongues of Al-Sadiq and Al-Baqir!” And suddenly, everybody in Kufa became mal’oon.

As time progressed, about a century and a half later, Al-Kashshi compiled his book on narrators. Due to the huge amount of disagreements, he included all the narrations. So, when you look into the chapter on Zurarah or Yunus bin Abdulrahman, you will find various attributions that say that so and so is in paradise, then in the next hadith it says that so and so is damned to hell.

Shia scholars were baffled by this and had no way to reconcile this other than to say that this is due to taqiyyah, because there is no way that one can say that the Imams contradicted themselves.


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Infallible Imam rejects the Ijtihad of other Infallible Imam and orders him to leave it

al-Salamu `Aleykum,

From the book al-Kafi 2/87:

علي بن إبراهيم ، عن أبيه ، عن ابن أبي عمير ، عن حفص بن البختري وغيره عن أبي عبد الله ( عليه السلام ) قال : اجتهدت في العبادة وأنا شاب ، فقال لي أبي : يا بني دون ما أراك تصنع ، فإن الله عز وجل إذا أحب عبدا رضي عنه باليسير

[`Ali bin Ibrahim from his father from ibn abi `Umair from Hafs bin al-Bukhturi and others from abi `Abdillah (as): When I was a young man I used to exaggerate in acts of worship, so my dad (al-Baqir) told me: O son, do not do this, if Allah loves a slave he will be pleased with what little he offers.”]

-al-Majlisi: “Hasan like Sahih” Mir’at-ul-`Uqool 8/110.
-al-Behbudi: Sahih al-Kafi 1/77.
-al-Najafi in al-Mawsou`ah: “The narration is authentic” 1/390.




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They ALL doubted the Imam of their time except a small few

al-Salamu `Aleykum,

Classical Shia grand scholar Muhammad bin Ibrahim bin Ja`far al-Nu`mani (died 360 A.H) says in his book “al-Ghaybah” pages 27-28:

أما بعد : فإنا رأينا طوائف من العصابة المنسوبة إلى التشيع ، المنتمية إلى نبيها محمد وآله صلى الله عليهم – ممن يقول بالإمامة التي جعلها الله برحمته دين الحق ، ولسان الصدق ، وزينا لمن دخل فيها ، ونجاة وجمالا لمن كان من أهلها ، وفاز بذمتها ، وتمسك بعقدتها ، ووفى لها بشروطها ، من المواظبة على الصلوات ، وإيتاء الزكوات ، والمسابقة إلى الخيرات ، واجتناب الفواحش والمنكرات ، والتنزه عن سائر المحظورات ، ومراقبة الله تقدس ذكره في الملأ والخلوات ، وتشغل القلوب وإتعاب الأنفس والأبدان في حيازة القربات – ، قد تفرقت كلمها ، وتشعبت مذاهبها ، واستهانت بفرائض الله عز وجل ، وخفت إلى محارم الله تعالى ، فطال بعضها علوا ، وانخفض بعضها تقصيرا ، وشكوا جميعا إلا القليل في إمام زمانهم ، وولي أمرهم ، وحجة ربهم التي اختارها بعلمه

[We saw the groups that are attributed to Tashayyu` and the Prophet and his family upon them be peace, from those who believed in the Imamah that Allah with his mercy has made truthful, and has made it a merit for the one who embraces it, and salvation and beauty for those belonging to it […] They have divided in sayings and sects, and they begun to take the orders and prohibitions of Allah lightly, some have risen to extremes while others have dropped into lenience, and they ALL have doubted the Imam of their time and the one in authority of their affairs and the Hujjah of their Lord whom he picked with his wisdom except a small few]

So he’s confirming what we read in Firaq al-Shia by al-Nawbakhti and other books that the Shia were extremely divided and misguided and almost all of them never knew who their Imams were.


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Is there any Shia to listen to this ex-Shia?

بسم الله الرحمن الرحیم

We thank Allah (swt) for guiding this brother towards the right path.  I am quoting him without adding or removing anything.

[Start of Quote]

I would mention a very breif of what happend with me to leave the Shiasim and embrace the Sect of Ahlul Suna Wa al Jama’a.

I guess you have to ask me why I left Shia and embraced the Sunni:

1st of all I would like to tell you that I am from Iraqi origin. We lived in London since 25 years. My family (till-now) follows Sayed Mohammad Hussain Fadullah.

I wasn’t care much about Sunna & Shia and these debates …etc but I was getting my information from my dad. My dad was sending a mail to Sayed Fadullah if he needs to have any Fatwa..

We were going together frequently to Khooei Center in London and in Ashora to Hussainia near by our home.

Anyway the reason that I conversed to Sunna was very simple. One of my colleagues was Sunna and I asked him once: Why you sunna hate Ahlulbait.

A tear came out of his eye and left me without any answer.

I spent all my banking holiday feel so guilty but I really do not know why ?? what the reason??

On Monday I went to my office early and waited for him. He came and we talked:

I asked him of the reason makes him crying and I apologized to him many times… his told me the reason…
The reason was: He was Shia as well and his embracing Sunna made him many troubles with his family and his father was so angry with him even though of their very strong friendly relationship.

His fathers stopped talking to him unless he return of what he was? But he was strictly believed of what he did as he told me. He wasnot reply to his dad at all but he was telling him “I can do anything but this thing am sorry” even he got beaten twice therefore.

His dad had an accident after 2 weeks of this problem even though he was embraced Sunna a while before his family get to know that till they say him putting his right hand on his left hand while he was praying the argument get started thereat.

Candidly, this was the beginning and I started to understand why Sunna ?? and he refused to start talking to me about this at the beginning because he is afraid that me will fall at the same problem and he could not take this.

I insist till he was everyday telling me how wrong this belief and how fair and right Snna belief ….. I was asking my dad continuously when I go back home about these things and I was finding everything I was been told is right especially when I started to read Sunna books and my dad’s books which he has in our house.

I wake up one day without any previous arrangements asking my dad before his leave to work “Do you’ll get angry if I became a Sunni”??

Actually, he did not take it seriously but when he came back he called me and talked to me that my questions in the last times are not usual??

I asked his the main question and I discovered that the right is with Sunna not with Shia ….

How we believe that Almighty Allah appointed Imam Ali in the Koran? And how our Prophet wrote the will that he should be the Caliph after him?

How Imam Ali the lion of islam did not make any move after the death of our prophet even he knew it is the order from Allah and His prophet?

I was believing that he was afraid of the Islamic unity?? But I discovered this is not truth ??? because Imam Ali fought Moawya when he was fighting against him for the sake of Caliphate not for the sake of appointment of Allah or the will of his prophet??

How it come he did not make revolution that time in Abu Baker area even he knew there is an order from Allah and will from Prophet? And he went fighting Moawyia to make him admit of his rulling?

It is 100% shame to belive Imam Ali did fight for the sake of chair and kept hush and silent when he knew there is appointment for him by Allah ??

The other thing that I did not really convinced that there is appointment from Allah to him and there is no clear verse from Quran saying this at all???

My dad got angry anyway till this day but he respected my opinion and he till now keeping trying to convince me but in vain.

I wish Almighty Allah guide us all to his rightly path the Quran and the Sunna of his prophet.

Note: I still beilive that Shia are Muslims though but they are not on the right bath.

Syyed Mohammad Hussain Fadullah is Saying:

((There is no freedom inside the Shia Sect to discuss the Shia Matters))

((The Shia matter in some cases is like (We followed what our fathers follow…))

((The Shia don’t wanna abandon wot they inherited whatsoever correct or not??))

Ref. (For Life and Man. Page:195)

[End of Quote]

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Infallible Imam did not know he had a Khariji wife

بسم الله الرحمن الرحیم

أحمد بن محمد عن ابن فضال عن ابن بكير عن زرارة عن أبي جعفر (عليه السلام) قال: دخل رجل على علي بن الحسين (عليهما السلام) فقال: إن امرأتك الشيبانية خارجية تشتم عليا (عليه السلام) فإن سرك أن أسمعك منها ذاك أسمعتك؟ قال: نعم قال: فإذا كان غدا حين تريد أن تخرج كما كنت تخرج فعد فاكمن في جانب الدار، قال: فلما كان من الغد كمن في جانب الدار فجاء الرجل فكلمها فتبين منها ذلك فخلى سبيلها وكانت تعجبه

Rough Translation: Ahmad bin Muhammad »» Ibn Fazzal »» Ibn Bukayr »» Zurarah »» Imam Baqir [as] said: a person came to Ali bin Hussain (Zain ul Aabideen) [as] and said: Your [as]’s wife who belongs to the Shaybani tribe is a Khariji, (she) abuses Ali [as], if you wish should I make hear from her? Imam [as] said: Yes. He said: in the morning when you [as] decide to come-out from her (house) you should hide yourself in the corner of house. He [as] said: so the next morning he [as] went hidden in the corner of house, then that man came and talked to her (Imam’s wife), so he [as] got the verification about that, so he [as] divorced her, whereas he [as] use to like her a lot.

Source: Al Kafi: vol 5 pg 351, hadith #14

Grading: Majlisi said: Mawthaq – Mirat Al Uqul, vol 20 pg 54

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