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Shia scholar: The current Quran which was compiled by Uthman was changed


Shia scholar says that the Quran that was compiled by Uthman bin Affan (ra) which is the one have in our hands today was changed and corrupted but the Imams ordered the Shia to follow it out of taqqiyah  etc.

Akhbari Imami Twelver Shia scholar, al-Shaykh `Abdullah bin Salih al-Samahiji al-Bahrani says in his book “Muniyat al-Mumariseen – منية الممارسين”:

القران الذي الفه عثمان والذي بين ايدي الناس وقع به التغيير والائمة امروا شيعتهم به استصلاحا وتقية لئلا تقع الفتنة العظمى والمصيبة الكبرى في اصل دين الاسلام

[The Qur’an compiled by `Uthman and the one in people’s hands, was in fact changed. The Imams ordered their Shia to follow it as that was for the best, also out of Taqiyyah so as to avoid a great Fitnah and calamity in the foundations of the Islamic religion.]

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And a scan of that is found here with praise for him by al-Sayyid `Abdullah al-Jaza’iri, Yusuf al-Bahrani and Shaykh `Ali al-Biladi:
http://www.dd-sunnah.net/forum/showthread.php?t=172567

 

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Shia narration: Verse of Wudhu was revealed differently


بسم الله الرحمن الرحیم

Allah says in the Quran:

فَاغْسِلُوا وُجُوهَكُمْ وَأَيْدِيَكُمْ إِلَى الْمَرَافِقِ

wash your faces, and your hands to the elbows; (5:6)

However, Shia do the opposite; they wash FROM the elbows to their hands. They start washing with elbows and then the hands.

In order to justify their beliefs they even question the authenticity of the Quran. When the verses didn’t support their claims and beliefs they attributed narrations to Ahlulbayt that say these verses were originally revealed differently but when the enemies of Ahlulbayt compiled the Quran, they made changes to these verses.

One example is their narration about the sixth verse of Surah Maida. They have attributed a narration to Jafar bin Muhammad who is free from their lies. The narration is present in al-Kafi.

Rough translation:

…I asked Abu Abdillah (as) about the saying of Allah (swt) “wash your faces, and your hands TO the elbowsHe said: This is not how it was revealed rather it was [revealed] “wash your faces, and your hands FROM the elbows

محمد بن الحسن وغيره، عن سهل بن زياد، عن علي بن الحكم، عن الهيثم ابن عروة التميمي قال سألت أبا عبد الله (عليه السلام) عن قول الله عز وجل: ” فاغسلوا وجوهكم وأيديكم إلى المرافق فقلت: هكذا ومسحت من ظهر كفي إلى المرفق، فقال: ليس هكذا تنزيلها إنما هي ” فاغسلوا وجوهكم وأيديكم من المرافق ، ثم أمر يده من مرفقه إلى أصابعه.

الكافي للكليني الجزء الثالث ص28 (باب) * حد الوجه الذي يغسل والذراعين وكيف يغسل

http://lib.eshia.ir/11005/3/28

Al-Kafi volume 3, page 28.
Tahzib al-ahkam volume 1, page 57.

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Shia scholar al-Fayd al-Kashani & his belief of Tahreef al-Quran


al-Salamu `Aleykum,

In this article I will discuss al-Fayd al-Kashani and his belief in Tahreef, I had seen that the Shia were debating this topic with some of Ahlul-Sunnah on their forum, and our popular Shi`ee brother Nader Zaveri wrote:

 

Only someone who is ignorant of Arabic or a purposeful liar would claim al-Fayd al-Kashani believed in tahrif after reading his introduction.

 

Here I assume he is talking about the famous introduction written by the Safavid scholar al-Kashani in which he discusses his opinion concerning this matter, the sixth introduction.

al-Kashani begins on page 40 by quoting the narrations from Tafseer al-Qummi & al-Kafi on how `Ali collected the Qur’an after Rasul-Allah (saw) passed away, and how the companions rejected his Mushaf. He also quotes narrations of how the companions of al-Sadiq recited the Qur’an in a manner contrary to the rest of the nation, then al-Sadiq tells them to recite it like the nation does until the Mahdi rises and teaches people the truth. Continue reading

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al-Tabrasi author of al-Ihtijaj & his belief on Tahrif Quran


al-Salamu `Aleykum,

First of all, we take the following quotes from the Shia books regarding the authority of this book called “al-Ihtijaj” which was authored by the Imami scholar abu Mansour Ahmad bin `Ali bin abi Talib al-Tabrasi (died around 600 hijri)

al-Majlisi said:

 وكتاب الاحتجاج وإن كان أكثر أخباره مراسيل لكنه من الكتب المعروفة، وقد أثنى السيد ابن طاوس على الكتاب وقد أخذ عنه أكثر المتأخرين

[And the book al-Ihtijaj, even if most of its narrations are Maraseel yet it is from the popular books, and al-Sayyid ibn Tawous praised it, and the majority of late scholars take knowledge from it.]

al-Khawansari said:

 كتاب الاحتجاج معتبر معروف بين الطائفة، مشتمل على كل ما اطلع عليه من احتجاجات النبي والأئمة، بل كثير من أصحابهم الأمجاد مع جملة من الأشقياء المخالفين

[The book al-Ihtijaj is authoritative and popular among our sect, it contains all the arguments of the Prophet and Imams and their noble companions against a group of evil ones.]

Researcher of “al-Ihtijaj” Sayyid Muhammad Baqir al-Khorasan said in the introduction:

الكتاب بمجموعه موضع اعتماد الأعلام والباحثين، بالرغم من أن أكثر أحاديثه مراسيل، إلا أن الثقة الكبيرة التي يتمتع بها مؤلف الكتاب، زرعت في نفوس المؤلفين الاعتماد عليه، والنقل عنه دون تمحيص وتحقيق، وتدقيق في أسناد الأخبار والأحاديث

[The book in its entirety is relied upon by the scholars and researchers, even though most of its narrations are Mursal. However, the great trust this author has, it planted in the souls of all authors the ability of relying on it, and quoting from it without verification and without researching the chains of its narrations.]

We don’t really care for its narrations, we only care for what the author abu Mansour al-Tabrasi himself says. We will quote what al-Majlisi quoted from the book al-Ihtijaj in his own book Bihar al-Anwar 89/43. Continue reading

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Debate On Tahrif Al-Quran Between Shia & Sunni


The following message was posted on Shiachat by brother Abul Hussaini:

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This is an invitation from Farid to knowledgeable members of Shiachat (or any other Shia forum/site) for a debate about the authenticity and completeness of the Quran according to Shia and Sunni Madhabs.

Debate format and other details will be provided once you accept the debate.

Debate Topic: Authenticity and completeness of Quran in the Shia and Sunni Madhabs  

Debate Venue: http://forum.twelvershia.net/

Further comment by brother Hani:

Our challenge is for any Admin/Moderator or popular respectable member from the ShiaChat forums to come and debate us regarding the mentioned topic, registration will be easy and their stay here will be facilitated InshaAllah.

We’re awaiting a response from the ShiaChat side, We urge them: Please do not post any nonsense and do not make any useless participation such as the one done by “Ibn al-Shahid” whose reply is of no use to anyone.

We will post the simple logical rules for the debate once we get a serious response.

Discussion link: http://forum.twelvershia.net/index.php?topic=38

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al-Khoei on the corruption (Tahreef) of the Quran


al-Salamu ‘Aleykum,

The grand Shia scholar al-Mirza Habibullah al-Khoei in his famous sharh called “Minhaj al-Bara’ah fi Sharh Nahjul Balagha” discusses the corruption of the Quran and I will quote from his book, firstly he starts by stating many examples of Shia Hadiths on Tahreef:

Then he says on pages 219 to 221:

[219]

و الانصاف أنّ القول بعدم النّقص فيه ممّا يمكن إنكاره بعد ملاحظة الأدلة و الأخبار التي قدّمناها ، فانّها قد بلغت حدّ التّواتر ، مضافا إلى أخبار ورود الامة على الحوض و قولهم بعد سؤال النّبيّ صلّى اللّه عليه و آله عنهم كيف خلّفتموني في الثقلين : أمّا الأكبر فحرقناه ( فبدلناه خ ل ) و أمّا الأصغر فقتلناه ، و هذه الأخبار أيضا متواترة ، و مع التّنزل عن بلوغها حدّ التواتر نقول : إنّه بانضمامها إلى الأخبار الاول لا محالة تكون متواترة مفيدة للعلم بثبوت النّقصان، إذ لو كان القرآن الموجود بأيدينا اليوم بعينه القرآن المنزل من السّماء من دون أن يكون فيه تحريف و نقصان ، فأىّ داع كان لهم على الطبخ و الاحراق الذي صار من أعظم المطاعن عليهم .

فان قلت : إذا ثبت وقوع التّغيير في القرآن فكيف يجوز لنا قرائته ؟ بل اللازم قرائته على نحو ما انزل فيما اطلعنا عليه .

قلت : إنّ الأئمة عليهم السلام رخّصونا على ما هو الموجود الآن و لم يأذنوا بقرائته على نحو ما انزل .

يدلّ على ذلك ما رواه في الكافي مرسلا عن سهل بن زياد عن محمّد بن سليمان عن بعض أصحابه عن أبي الحسن عليه السّلام قال : قلت له : جعلت فداك إنا نسمع الآيات في القرآن ليس هي عندنا كما نسمعها و لا نحسن أن نقرأها كما بلغنا عنكم فهل نأثم ؟

فقال عليه السّلام : لا ، اقرءوا كما تعلّمتم فسيجيئكم من يعلّمكم .

و فيه أيضا باسناده إلى سالم بن سلمة ، قال : قرء رجل على أبي عبد اللّه عليه السّلام و أنا أستمع حروفا من القرآن ليس على ما يقرئها النّاس ، فقال أبو عبد اللّه عليه السّلام :

مه كفّ عن هذه القرائة و اقرء كما يقرء النّاس حتّى يقوم القائم عليه السّلام : فاذا قام قرء كتاب اللّه على حدّه و أخرج المصحف الذي كتبه عليّ عليه السّلام .

فان قلت : سلّمنا وجود التّحريف فيه فلم لم يصحّحه أمير المؤمنين عليه السّلام حيثما جلس على سرير الخلافة مع أنّه لم يكن منه مانع يومئذ .

قلت : إنّه عليه السّلام لم يتمكن منه لوجود التقية المانعة من حيث كونه مستلزما

[ 220 ]

للتشنيع على من سبقه كما لم يتمكن من إبطال صلاة الضحى ، و من إجراء متعتي الحجّ و النّساء ، و من عزل شريح عن القضاوة ، و معاوية عن الامارة ، و قد صرّح بذلك في رواية الاحتجاج السّابقة في مكالمته عليه السّلام مع الزّنديق .

مضافا إلى اشتمال عدم التّصحيح على مصلحة لا تخفى ، و هو أن يتمّ الحجة في يوم القيامة على المحرّفين المغيّرين من هذه الجهة أيضا بحيث يظهر شناعة فعلهم لجميع أهل المحشر ، و ذلك بأن يصدر الخطاب من مصدر الرّبوبيّة إلى امّة محمّد صلّى اللّه عليه و آله ، و يقال لهم : كيف قرأتم كتابي الذي أنزلته إليكم ؟ فيصدر عنهم الجواب ،

بأنّا قرأناه كذا و كذا ، فيقال لهم : ما أنزلناه هكذا فلم ضيّعتموه و حرّفتموه و نقصتموه ؟

فيجيبوا أن يا ربّنا ما قصّرنا فيه و لا ضيّعناه و لا فرطنا ، بل هكذا وصل إلينا .

فيخاطب حملة الوحى و يقال لهم : أنتم قصّرتم في تبليغ وحيي و أداء أمانتي ؟ فيقولوا ربّنا ما فرطنا في وحيك من شي ء و إنّما فرط فيه فلان و فلان بعد مضيّ نبيّهم ،

فيظهر شناعه فعلهم و فضاحة عملهم لجميع أهل المحشر و يستحقّوا بذلك الخزى العظيم و العذاب الأليم مضافا إلى استحقاقهم للنّكال و العقاب بتفريطهم في أمر الرّسالة و تقصيرهم في غصب الخلافة .

فان قلت : سلّمنا أنّ عليّا عليه السّلام لم يتمكن من تصحيحه و أنّ بقائه على التّحريف كان مشتملا على المصلحة التي ذكرتها ، و لكن بقي هنا شي‏ء و هو أنّ الأئمة لم لم يدفعوا ما عندهم من الكتاب المنظم المحفوظ السّالم عن التّحريف إلى الامّة و ما كان المانع لهم من ذلك ؟

قلت : السّر في عدم إظهارهم عليهم السلام له وجوه كثيرة :

منها أنّه لو أظهر ذلك الكتاب مع بقاء هذا الكتاب المحرّف لوقع الاختلاف بين النّاس و يكون ذلك سببا لرجوع النّاس إلى كفرهم الأصلي و أعقابهم القهقرى .

و منها أنّ شوكة النّفاق يومئذ كان أكثر فلو أظهروه لأحدث المنافقون فيه مثل ما أحدثه رئيسهم قبلهم .

[221]

و منها أنّه مع إظهاره أيضا لا يكون له رواج ، لمكان شهرة ذلك المحرّف إلى غير هذه من الأسرار التي تستفاد من الأخبار .

و كيف كان فقد ظهر و تحقّق ممّا ذكرنا كله أنّ حدوث التّحريف و النّقصان في القرآن ممّا لا غبار عليه .

و أمّا الزّيادة ففيها تردّد و الأقوى العدم إذ الدّليل عليها ليس إلاّ عدّة روايات و هي لا تقاوم الاجماعات التي ادّعاها الشّيخ و الصّدوق و الطبرسي و المحقّق الكاظمي .

 

[page 219]

To be fair, the denial of corruption in terms of deletion can be countered by the proofs and narrations that we stated earlier and they have reached the level of Tawatur, also by adding the narrations of when the nation will be brought to the fountain(Hawd) and they will say after the Prophet SAWS asks them on what they did with the two weighty things: “As for the bigger one we burned/changed it, as for the smaller one we killed them.” and these narrations are also Mutawatir, even if we were to say that doesn’t reach Tawatur yet by adding them to the previous narrations they become Mutawatir and they would clearly prove the deletion from the Quran.

If the Quran in our hands today was the exact same as the one that was revealed from the sky without corruption or deletion, then I ask: for what purpose would they mess with it and burn it? by doing so this has become the biggest criticism against them.

You would say: “If this Quran was indeed corrupt, then how can it be permissible for us to read it? it is required that we read it the way it was revealed.”

I say: The Imams permitted us to read what is present in our hands and they did not permit us to read it the way it was revealed, one of the proofs for this is what is narrated in the Mursal hadith in al-Kafi from Sahl bin Ziad from Muhammad bin Suleiman from some of his companions from Abu al-Hassan (as) that he asked him: “May I be a sacrifice for you, we hear the verses from the Quran unlike the ones we have, and we are not able to read them in the form that reached us from you(Imams), are we sinful?”

He (as) replied: “No, recite it as you have been taught. there shall come one who shall teach you.”

And in it also is with the Isnad to Salim bin Salamah: “A man recited to abu ‘Abdullah (as) and I heard words unlike those read by the people.” He (as) told the man: “Meh! stop this recitation and recite it like the rest of the people until al-Qaem rises. When he does he shall revealed the true Quran written by ‘Ali.”

If you say: “We agree with you that it is corrupt, so why didn’t Ameer al-Mumineen (as) correct it? was he not the Caliph and there was no one to stop him?”

[page 220]

I say: “He (as) did not do this for the purpose of Taqqiyah, because doing so will make the first three look horrible. He also could not abolish the prayer of Duha, and was not able to establish the Mutah of Hajj and the Mutah of women. He was not able to remove Shurayh from position of Judge nor Mu’awiyah from position of Ameer…”
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[Then al-Mirza says after a couple of lines]
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I say: “The reason why they (as) did not reveal it is based on many points.
from them: If that book was revealed while this corrupt one was present, then there would be difference among the people and they may return to their previous state of Kufr.
from them: the hypocrites were extremely dominant at the time so if they revealed it then the hypocrites would have changed it like their leaders before them did.

[page 221]

from them:  if it was revealed it wouldn’t spread much because of the popularity of the corrupted one, and there are many other reasons.
And no matter what the case, it is apparent and proven from all we have stated that there is no dust on the fact that the Quran is corrupted in terms of deletion.
As for the saying of corruption in terms of addition then this is not a strong opinion and is only based on a few narrations that cannot counter the consensus stated by al-Sheikh and  al-Saduq and al-Tabrasi and al-Muhaqqiq al-Kathimi.”

Source: Minhaj al-Bara’ah fi Sharh Nahjul Balagha “منهاج البراعة في شرح نهج البلاغة” by al-Mirza Habibullah al-Khoei, al-Wafaa Beirut Lebanon, volume 2, pages 216 to 220.

Salam ‘Aleykum,

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Another Shia scholar claims Quran was distorted


Shia scholar claims Quran was distorted and corrupted by Uthman and the real Quran is with the hidden 12th Imam of the Shia

Salam `Aleykum,

Shia scholar al-Muhaqqiq Agha Rida bin Muhammad al-Hamdani writes in his book “Misbah-ul-Faqih” speaks about the Sunni chains of Qur’anic recitation and how even the text(Rasm) of the Qur’an we have today is no evidence for the validity of the Sunni recitations because the recitations are corrupt and so is the current Qur’an according to the Imami Shia, he writes:

وأنت خبير بان السند الصحيح بل المتواتر باعتقادهم من أضعف الاسناد عندنا لأنهم يعتمدون في السند على من لا نشك نحن في كذبه واما موافقة أحد المصاحف العثمانية فهي أيضا من الموهنات عندنا سيما مع تمسكهم على اعتبارها باجماع الصحابة عليها الذين جعل الله الرشد في خلافهم حيث إنه غير من القرآن ما شاء ولذا اعرضوا عن مصحف أمير المؤمنين عليه السلام لما عرضه عليهم فأخفاه لولده القائم عليهم السلام وعجل الله فرجه

[You (O reader) are well aware, that the “Sahih” or “Mutawatir” chain of recitation in their view (Ahlul-Sunnah), is from the weakest of chains in our view (Shia view) because their chains rely on men we do not doubt are liars.
As for it (recitation) being supported by any of the `Uthmani Qur’ans (ie their texts), then this also weakens it in our eyes especially since they (Ahlul-Sunnah) believe firmly that the Sahabah all agreed on it, and Allah has placed the guidance in what opposes them (Sahabah), and he (`Uthman) changed in the Qur’an what he wished, this is why they refused the Qur’an of Ameer al-Mu’mineen (as) when he presented it to them, so he hid it for his son al-Qa’im (Mahdi) may Allah hasten his appearance.]

source: Misbah-ul-Faqih 12/115.

Link to scanned document: http://www.dd-sunnah…ad.php?t=171637
Link to Iranian Shia website: http://lib.eshia.ir/10192/2/275

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