Zaid bin Harithah[ra]: Mawla of muslims like Ali[ra]


The Prophet PBUH appoints Zaid bin Harithah (ra) as The Caliph after him in SAHIH bukhari:

قال على: أنا أخذتها وهي بنت عمي، وقال جعفر: هى ابنة عمي وخالتها تحتي، وقال زيد: ابنة أخي، فقضي بها النبي × لخالتها وقال: الخالة بمنزلة الأم، وقال لعلي: أنت مني وأنا منك، وقال لجعفر: أشبهت خلقي وخلقى، وقال لزيد: أنت أخونا ومولانا

The Prophet departed (from Mecca) and the daughter of hamza followed him shouting “O Uncle, O Uncle!” ali took her by the hand and said to Fatima, “Take the daughter of your uncle.” So she made her ride (on her horse). (When they reached Medina) ‘ali, zaid and Ja’far quarreled about her. ‘ali said, “I took her for she is the daughter of my uncle.” Ja’far said, “She is the daughter of my uncle and her aunt is my wife.” zaid said, “She is the daughter of my brother.” On that, the Prophet gave her to her aunt and said, “The aunt is of the same status as the mother.” He then said to ‘ali, “You are from me, and I am from you,” and said to Ja’far, “You resemble me in appearance and character,” and said to zaid, “You are our brother and our Mawla.” ‘ali said to the Prophet ‘Won’t you marry the daughter of hamza?” The Prophet said, “She is the daughter of my foster brother.” [Sahih al Bukhari]

Comment: Applying shia theory then zaid (ra) was also imam just because prophet told him our Mawla; and here “Our” means muslims.

Here i just want to show that zaid (ra) was also called as mawla like ali (ra). So this implies that he was also imam as per shia theory.

and “about sense of how Ali b. Abi Talib (as) is the mawla of the believers”: I think may be shia rafida are not aware about the issue why he was called as mawla on ghadeer??!!

But you shia always stick to one argument then take this hadith as my argument.

But we have SAHIH hadith on this issue that Ali (ra) himself rejected the ghadeer misconception:

Here is the hadith in which some companions from the Ansars call Ali (ra) their Mawla (Close Ally, loved Friend, Supporter..) and He doesn’t understand what they’re talking about:

عن رياح بن الحارث قال : ( جاء رهط إلى على بالرحبة فقالوا السلام عليك يا مولانا قال كيف أكون مولاكم وأنتم قوم عرب قالوا سمعنا رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم يوم غدير خم يقول من كنت مولاه فان هذا مولاه قال رياح فلما مضوا تبعتهم فسألت من هؤلاء قالوا نفر من الأنصار فيهم أبو أيوب الأنصاري ) .
رواه الإمام أحمد في المسند 5/419 قال شعيب الأرناؤوط إسناده صحيح ، وأورده في فضائل الصحابة 2/570 حديث رقم 967 .

Narrated Rayeh bin al harith: A Group of Ansars came to Ali (ra) in al Rahbah and said: Al Salamu Aleykum Ya Mawlana, He replied: How Can I be your Mawla and you are Arabian people? They Said: We heard the Prophet of Allah PBUH say on the Day of Ghadeer Khum: Whomsoever’s Mawla I am, this (Ali) is also his Mawla. Riyah said: When they left I followed them and asked whom they were, They said some folks from the Ansars and amongst them was Abu Ayoub al Ansari.

Source: Narrated Imam Ahmad in His Munad 5/419, Shu’eib al Arna’out said Its ISNAD IS SAHEEH, and it was mentioned in the Virtues of companions 2/570 #967.

Comment: So this is Ali Bin Abi Talib (ra) Who Did not understand the saying of Ansars ” Al Salamu Aekum Ya Mawlana” as ” Al Salamu Aleykum O CALIPH/AMEER”, Instead he understood it as a Muwalat of “Al Itq” meaning the ownership of a Slave or in other words “Freed slaves”, Then when they explained to him that it was the Muwalat of Lovers, Supporters and Allies Then he agreed with them.

These are the Ansars who were at Ghadeer khum and this is how they understood it, and this is Ali (ra) himself and this is how He Understands it, So until when will The Persian ignorants keep explaining the word Mawla as Caliph and Ruler?

& you have SAHIH hadith from al-kafi & majlisi declared it SAHIH, which clearly says:

10 محمد بن يحيى، عن أحمد بن محمد، عن أحمد بن محمد بن أبي نصر قال: سألت أبا الحسن الرضا عن مسألته فأبي وأمسك، ثم قال: لو أعطيناكم كلما تريدون كان شر الكم واخذ برقبة صاحب هذا الامر، قال أبوجعفر (عليه السلام): ولاية الله أسرها إلى جبرئيل (عليه السلام) وأسرها جبرئيل إلى محمد (صلى الله عليه وآله) وأسرها محمد إلى علي وأسرها علي إلى من شاء الله، ثم أنتم تذيعون ذلك، من ألذي أمسك حرفا سمعه؟ قال أبوجعفر (عليه السلام): في حكمة آل داود ينبغي للمسلم أن يكون مالكا لنفسه مقبلا على شأنه عارفا بأهل زمانه فاتقوا الله
ولا تذيعوا حديثنا، فلو لا أن الله يدافع عن أوليائه وينتقم لاوليائه من أعدائه، أما رأيت ماصنع الله بآل برمك وماانتقم الله لابي الحسن (عليه السلام) وقد كان بنو الاشعث على خطر
عظيم فدفع الله عنهم بولايتهم لابي الحسن وأنتم بالعراق ترون أعمال هؤلاء الفراعنة وما أمهل الله لهم فعليكم بتقوى الله، ولا تغرنكم] الحياة] الدنيا، ولا تغتروابمن قد امهل له، فكأن الامر قد وصل إليكم.

Muhammad ibn Yahya has narrated from Ahmad ibn Muhammad from Ahmad ibn Muhammad ibn abu Nasr who has said the following: “Once I asked abu al-Hassan al-Rida, recipient of divine supreme covenant, a question. He refrained silently and said, ‘If we give you everything you want, it may become evil for you and the neck of the owner of this cause will be caught tight.’

Abu Ja’far, recipient of divine supreme covenant, has said, ‘It is the guardianship of Allah, Who told it secretly to Jibril, who secretly told it to Muhammad, recipient of divine supreme covenant, who secretly told it to Ali, recipient of divine supreme covenant, who secretly told it to whoever Allah wanted and then you publicize it. Who is he that has heard a word then has held it secretly?’ “Abu Ja’far, recipient of divine supreme covenant, has said, ‘It is in the wisdom of ‘Ale Dawud (family of David), “It is necessary for a Muslim to have control over his soul, be attentive to his affairs and have full knowledge of the people of his time.” Be pious before Allah and do not publicize our Hadith. It is a fact that Allah defends his friends and exacts recompense for His friends from His enemies. Have you considered how Allah dealt with Ale Barmak (family of Barmak) and how He recompensed for abu al-Hassan, recipient of divine supreme covenant, when banu ‘Ash’ath faced the great danger and Allah defended them for their supporting abu al-Hassan, recipient of divine supreme covenant? In Iraq you are well aware of the deeds of those Pharaohs and the respite that Allah has given them. Therefore, you must observe piety before Allah and do not allow the worldly life to deceive you. Do not be confused about those who have been given respite. It is as if the matter (reappearance of al-Mahdi, recipient of divine supreme covenant) is almost within your reach.’”

Comment: So from above hadith it seems that ghadeer declaration was not about wilayat.

I want to ask: Do shia have SAHIH hadith which is very clear about: prophet declared ali (ra) as successor of muslims after him on ghadeer.
remember hadith should be very clear.

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8 responses to “Zaid bin Harithah[ra]: Mawla of muslims like Ali[ra]

  1. Slave of Ahlul'Bayt(a.s)

    (Q2.V159) Surely those who conceal the clear proofs and the guidance that We revealed after We made it clear in the Book for men, these it is whom Allah shall curse, and those who curse shall curse them (too).

    Remember the Ayat above always.. “and know that who lie against Allah(swt) and His Holy Prophet(saww) Allah’s curse is on that person.”

    “Just after the declaration of the Imam Ali’s (as) guardianship, Allah (swt) revealed the verse “Al yaumu akmaltu lakum deenakum” and made it clear for everyone that though belief in the Unity of Allah, the Prophethood, prayers, fasting, pilgrimage, the payment of poor-rate and jihad already existed, without the Wilayat of Ali (as) the Religion cannot be complete and perfect.

    Abu Sa’eed al-Khudri has narrated that this verse descended upon the Holy Prophet (s) on the day of Ghadir e Khum when he declared that Ali was the leader of whom ever was he. Abu Hurairah has also narrated it and he has also further said that this verse revealed on 18th of the month of Dhil-Hij when the Holy Prophet (s) returned from Hujjat al-Widah (the last pilgrimage).
    1. Tafseer Ibn Katheer, volume 2, page 14, published in Egypt.
    2. Tafseer Durre Manthur, volume 2, page 259, published in Egypt.”

  2. Slave of Ahlul'Bayt(a.s)

    Shaikh al-Albaanee again in his in his Saheeh Sunan at-Tirmidhee, Volume 3, page 542, Number 3787 (Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: Maktabah al-Ma’arif; first edition, 1420 H):

    حدثنا نصر بن عبد الرحمن الكوفي حدثنا زيد بن الحسن – الأنماطي –عن جعفر بن محمد ، عن أبيه ، عن جابر بن عبد الله قال : رأيت رسول الله في حجته يوم عرفة وهو على ناقته القصواء يخطب ، فسمعته يقول : يا أيها الناس إني قد تركت فيكم ما إن أخذتم به لن تضلوا كتاب الله وعترتي أهل بيتي

    Narrated Jabir ibn ‘Abdullah al-Ansaree, may Allaah be pleased with him:

    “I saw the Messenger of Allaah, peace be upon him, during his hajj pilgrimage on the day of `Arafah. He was seated on his camel, al¬-Qaswa, and was delivering a sermon. I heard him say: ‘O mankind, verily, I have left among you that which if you hold fast to you shall never go astray: the Book of Allaah and my nearest kin, my Ahl al-Bait.”

    Commenting upon its authenticity, Shaikh al-Albaanee says: صحيح <>

    • yes & the hadith is SAHIH without any doubt & we have other shawahid as well.
      But u missed something: WIVES [umm-ul-mominin] are also AHLE-BAYT. & Prophet ask us to hold fast & respect her wives as well along with others like fatima[ra], ali[ra], ibn ali[ra], abbas[ra], ibn abbas[ra] & list go on & on….

      So better next time come-up with more knowledge & don’t show ur ignorance here.

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  4. TripolySunni

    Slave of Ahlulbayt? what kind of a Shirki polytheist Name is this? you see I am a slave of Allah and not a slave to the creation of Allah and since you are quoting verses then let me quote this verse for you:

    Indeed, Allah does not forgive association with Him, but He forgives what is less than that for whom He wills. And he who associates others with Allah has certainly fabricated a tremendous sin. [4:48]

    Indeed, Allah does not forgive association with Him, but He forgives what is less than that for whom He wills. And he who associates others with Allah has certainly gone far astray. [4:116]

    Which means you’re going to hell O slave of human beings.

    As for your saying that the verse “Today I ahve p[erfected your religion for you” was revealed during 18th of thu al-hijjah on Ghadeer khum well that is a sad lie, it was revealed on the day of Arafah on the 9th of Thu al-hijja according to your Shia sources:

    Al Kafi (1/199,290) Noor al Thakalayn(1/588,589,651) Al Bihar (7/236)(36/133)(37/138,173)(58/368) Furat (1/119,120) Al ‘Ayyashi (1/322) Al burhan(1/435= =444) Al Tafseer al Kashif (3/5,13), Al Meezan (5/170,195,197) mujamma’a al Bayan (2/231).

    • salam akhi, tripolysunni..
      i.e. why i consider these rafida’s as jalih majoosi. they don’t know what quran says! they feel very proud while saying these jahil words.
      wasalam

  5. Muhammad Nabil Khan

    ALHUMDULILLAH ..
    Proud to be a Muslim
    Proud to be a Sunni ..

    ALLAHUMMA AAIZZAL ISLAM WAL MUSLIMEEN WAL AHLUL SUNNAH WAL JAMAH ..

    AMeen

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