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Clear Mistranslation in the English version of Majlisi’s work – Hayat ul Quloob


بسم الله الرحمن الرحیم

It is well known that the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم had four real daughters from Khadijah رضي الله عنها . Quite many Shias nowadays deny this fact, but this was not the case with the ancient Shias. Rather there are clear and authentic narrations in Sunni and Shia books which prove that the Prophet (S) had four real daughters from Khadijah.

After mentioning those authentic narrations, Majlisi mentioned that a group of people from Shias and Sunnis state that they were not the real daughters, but then he says “But authentic narrations refute both of these statements.” ?Since this sentence was problematic, hence the English translator of Hayat ul Quloob omitted it. 

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Original Persian Text and its correct English translation :

و جمعى از علماى خاصه و عامه را اعتقاد آن است كه رقيه و ام كلثوم دختران خديجه بودند از شوهر ديگر مع پيش از رسول خدا (صلى الله عليه و آله و سلم) داشته و حضرت ايشان را تربيت كرده بود و دختر حقيقى آن جناب نبودند؛ و بعضى گفتند كه: دختران هاله خواهر خديجه بوده‏اند. و بر نفى اين دو قول روايت معتبره دلالت مى‏كند

A group of Shia and Sunni scholars believe that Ruqayyah and Umm Kulthum were the daughters of Khadijah from another husband before the Prophet (S), and some say that they were the daughters of Haala, the sister of Khadijah. But authentic narrations refute both of these statements.

Hayat ul Quloob, Vol. 2, p. 560 

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Alteration of a narration of al-Kafi by Shia – hiding their ugly beliefs


بسم الله الرحمن الرحیم
اسلام علیکم

The original narration is this:

« عَلِی بْنُ الْحَكَمِ عَنْ هِشَامِ بْنِ سَالِمٍ عَنْ أَبِی عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ع قَالَ: إِنَّ الْقُرْآنَ الَّذِی جَاءَ بِهِ جَبْرَئِیلُ ع إِلَى مُحَمَّدٍ ص سَبْعَةَ عَشَرَ أَلْفَ آیة»
(الكافی، ج‏2، ص: 634، دار الکتب اسلامیه _تهران،ط4)

Imam Jafar (as) said: “The Quran that Gibrael (as) brought to Muhammad (saw) had 17,000 verses”.

According to Majlisi the narration is Authentic:(مرآة العقول، ج‏12، ص: 525، مجلسی ؛ دار الکتب اسلامیه_تهران،ط2)

Majlisi says about this narration:

«الحدیث الثامن و العشرون‏: موثق. و فی بعض النسخ عن هشام بن سالم موضع هارون بن مسلم، فالخبر صحیح و لا یخفى أن هذا الخبر و كثیر من الأخبار الصحیحة صریحة فی نقص القرآن و تغییره، و عندی أن الأخبار فی هذا الباب متواترة معنى، و طرح جمیعها یوجب رفع الاعتماد عن الأخبار رأسا بل ظنی أن الأخبار فی هذا الباب لا یقصر عن أخبار الإمامة فكیف یثبتونها بالخبر.» (مرآة العقول، ج‏12، ص: 525، مجلسی ؛ دار الکتب اسلامیه_تهران،ط2)

Help needed in correcting the translation:

Hadith 28: It is Authentic. In some copies Harun bin Muslim is mentioned instead of Hisham bin Salim.Therefore, this narration is Authentic. It is not hidden that this narration and most of these Authentic narrations are clear about corruption and alteration of Quran. In my view the narrations of Tahreef of Quran are Mutawatir and throwing all these narrations makes the Hadith system unreliable rather I think that narrations of Tahreef are not less than the narrations of Imamate [thus if not accepting the narrations of Tahreef] how are they going to prove Imamate from narrations?

So the narrations of Tahreef of Quran are not only Mutawatir but they are also not less than the narrations of Imamate.

Now the altered one: In this version they replaced 17000 with 7000. Published by Darul Hadis Qum.

They replaced سَبْعَةَ عَشَرَ أَلْفَ آیة with سبعة آلاف آیة .

«عَلِی بْنُ الْحَكَمِ، عَنْ هِشَامِ بْنِ سَالِمٍ‏:عَنْ أَبِی عَبْدِ اللَّهِ علیه السلام، قَالَ: «إِنَّ الْقُرْآنَ الَّذِی جَاءَ بِهِ جَبْرَئِیلُ علیه السلام إِلى‏ مُحَمَّدٍ صلى الله علیه و آله‏ سَبْعَةَ آلَافِ‏ آیةٍ».
(الكافی، ج‏4، ص: 675، دار الحدیث _قم،ط1)

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Shia alteration of a Shia narration about Fatima (ra)


By Farid
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Alsalam alaykum,

This argument was initially made around a year ago, but I don’t think that many people here are aware of it, so I decided to share it with you all.

The following hadith is from Al-Kafi:

بَابُ صَوْمِ الْحَائِضِ وَالْمُسْتَحَاضَةِ
أَبُو عَلِيٍّ الْأَشْعَرِيُّ عَنْ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ عَبْدِ الْجَبَّارِ عَنْ عَلِيِّ بْنِ مَهْزِيَارَ قَالَ كَتَبْتُ إِلَيْهِ ( عليه السلام ) امْرَأَةٌ طَهُرَتْ مِنْ حَيْضِهَا أَوْمِنْ دَمِ نِفَاسِهَا فِي أَوَّلِ يَوْمٍ مِنْ شَهْرِ رَمَضَانَ ثُمَّ اسْتَحَاضَتْ فَصَلَّتْ وَصَامَتْ شَهْرَ رَمَضَانَ كُلَّهُ مِنْ غَيْرِ أَنْتَعْمَلَ مَا تَعْمَلُ الْمُسْتَحَاضَةُ مِنَ الْغُسْلِ لِكُلِّ صَلَاتَيْنِ فَهَلْ يَجُوزُ صَوْمُهَا وَ صَلَاتُهَا أَمْ لَا فَكَتَبَ ( عليه السلام ) تَقْضِي صَوْمَهَا وَ لَا تَقْضِي صَلَاتَهَا إِنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ (صلى الله عليه وآله ) كَانَ يَأْمُرُ فَاطِمَةَ صَلَوَاتُ اللَّهِ عَلَيْهَا وَ الْمُؤْمِنَاتِ مِنْ نِسَائِهِ بِذَلِكَ ـ

Translation by brother Hani: Abu ‘Ali al-Asha’ari from Muhammad ibn ‘Abdul-Jabbar from ‘Ali ibn Mehzayar: I wrote to him(Imam) may peace be upon him: A woman was purified from her Haydh(bleeding in Menstruation) on the first day of the month of Ramadhan then she had Istihadah(False Menstruation) and she fasted and prayed during the entire month of Ramadhan without doing Ghusl(purifying her body) before every prayer so are her prayers and her fasting accepted? He peace be upon him wrote back: She must repeat her Siyam(Fasting) but not her Salat(prayer), the Prophet SAWS used to order Fatima peace be upon her and the believing women to do this.

I say: Most Shias here are aware that the common Shia view is that Fatima (as) does not menstruate. The chain is authentic according to Shia standards so this misconception should be rejected. Al-Tusi in Tahtheeb Al-Ahkaam records this narration as well.

Now, pay attention to this bit:

أبى رحمه الله قال حدثنا سعد بن عبدالله قال حدثنا احمد بن ادريس عن محمد بن احمد عن محمد بن عبدالجبار عن علي بن مهزيار قال: كنت اليه امرأة طهرت من حيضها او من دم نفاسها في اول يوم من شهر رمضان ثم استحاضت فصلت وصامت شهر رمضان كله من غيرأن تعمل كما تعمله المستحاضة من الغسل لكل صلاتين هل يجوز صومها وصلاتها ام لا؟ فكتب تقضي صومها ولا تقضى صلاتها لان رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله كان يأمر المؤمنات من نسائه بذلك.

This is the exact same hadith, but from Ilal Al-Shara’i’i by Al-Saduq instead. The only difference is that at the end of the hadith, we find that the name of Fatima was removed. Al-Saduq, in his other book Man la yahtharhu al-faqeeh ended up with the same narration.

In conclusion, we are left with three possibilities:

1) Al-Saduq tampered with the hadith
2) Al-Saduq’s father tampered with the hadith
3) Sa’ad bin Abdullah, one of the greatest Shia narrators of his time, tampered with the hadith

I ask the Shias of this board to do the honourable thing and AVOID derailing the thread. If you have other arguments that are non-related, then please create another thread for them. Thank you.

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