“Abu Bakr & `Umar masters of youth and elderly of paradise”


By Hani
Posted by13S2010
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al-Salamu `Aleykum,

The narration mainly from `Ali (ra) that the Prophet (saws) said “Abu Bakr and `Umar are the masters of the young and mature men of paradise after the Messengers and Prophets.”

The Hadith is narrated through a good number of chains, especially from `Ali (ra), other narrations come from Anas (ra), abu Juhayfah (ra), abu Sa`eed (ra), abu Hurayrah (ra) and ibn `Umar (ra).

Some of these narrations are good, some have minor weakness, some have major weakness. Those of minor weakness are useful for strengthening the Hadith, the ones of extreme weakness are rejected.

Below I list what I found to be good chains, or Hasan li-Dhatihi:

What is authentic from the narration of `Ali ibn abi Talib al-Hashimi (ra):

1)
Wahb bin Baqiyyah al-Wasiti (Thiqah) -> `Umar bin Yunus al-Yamami (Thiqah) -> al-Hasan bin Zayd bin al-Hasan bin `Ali ibn abi Talib (Saduq Fadil Yahim) -> Zayd bin al-Hasan bin `Ali ibn abi Talib (Thiqah Jaleel) -> al-Hasan ibn `Ali bin abi Talib (Sahabi).
GRADING: Hasan.
Source: Fada’il al-Sahaba li-Ahmad ibn Hanbal.
حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ اللَّهِ , قَالَ : حَدَّثَنِي وَهْبُ بْنُ بَقِيَّةَ الْوَاسِطِيُّ ، قثنا عُمَرُ بْنُ يُونُسَ الْيَمَامِيُّ ، عَنِ الْحَسَنِ بْنِ زَيْدِ بْنِ حَسَنٍ ، قَالَ : حَدَّثَنِي أَبِي ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ ، عَنْ عَلِيٍّ ، قَالَ : كُنْتُ عِنْدَ النَّبِيِّ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ فَأَقْبَلَ أَبُو بَكْرٍ وَعُمَرُ ، فَقَالَ : “ يَا عَلِيُّ ، هَذَانِ سَيِّدَا كُهُولِ أَهْلِ الْجَنَّةِ وَشَبَابُهَا بَعْدَ النَّبِيِّينَ وَالْمُرْسَلِينَ

In al-Shari`ah lil-Ajurri we read more details:
قَالَ: جَاءَهُ نَفَرٌ مِنَ الْعِرَاقِ فَقَالُوا: يَا أَبَا مُحَمَّدٍ، حَدِيثٌ بَلَغَنَا أَنَّكَ تُحَدِّثُهُ عَنْ عَلِيِّ بْنِ أَبِي طَالِبٍ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ فِي أَبِي بَكْرٍ وَعُمَرَ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُمَا، فَقَالَ: نَعَمْ، حَدَّثَنِي أَبِي، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ عَلِيِّ بْنِ أَبِي طَالِبٍ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ، قَالَ: كُنْتُ عِنْدَ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ K فَأَقْبَلَ أَبُو بَكْرٍ وَعُمَرُ، فَقَالَ: “ يَا عَلِيُّ، هَذَانِ سَيِّدَا كُهُولِ أَهْلِ الْجَنَّةِ بَعْدَ النَّبِيِّينَ وَالْمُرْسَلِينَ

2)
al-Hasan bin `Arafah (Saduq Hasan) -> Waki` bin al-Jarrah (Thiqah Hujjah Imam) -> Yunus ibn abi Ishaq (Saduq Hasan) -> `Amir al-Sha`bi (Thiqah Faqih).
GRADING: Hasan.
Source: Musnad abi Ya`la al-Mousili.
حَدَّثَنَا الْحَسَنُ بْنُ عَرَفَةَ، حَدَّثَنَا وَكِيعُ بْنُ الْجَرَّاحِ، حَدَّثَنَا يُونُسُ بْنُ أَبِي إِسْحَاقَ، عَنِ الشَّعْبِيِّ، عَنْ عَلِيٍّ، قَالَ: كُنْتُ جَالِسًا عِنْدَ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ  فَأَقْبَلَ أَبُو بَكْرٍ، وَعُمَرُ، فَقَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ : “ هَذَانِ سَيِّدَا كُهُولِ أَهْلِ الْجَنَّةِ مِنَ الأَوَّلِينَ وَالآخِرِينَ إِلا النَّبِيِّينَ وَالْمُرْسَلِينَ، يَا عَلِيُّ، لا تُخْبِرْهُمَا

3)
Zuhayr bin Harb (Thiqah Thabt) -> Waki` bin al-Jarrah (Thiqah Hujjah Imam) -> Yunus ibn abi Ishaq (Saduq Hasan) -> `Amir al-Sha`bi (Thiqah Faqih).
GRADING: Hasan.
Source: Musnad abi Ya`la al-Mousili.
حَدَّثَنَا زُهَيْرٌ، حَدَّثَنَا وَكِيعٌ، عَنْ يُونُسَ بْنِ أَبِي إِسْحَاقَ، عَنِ الشَّعْبِيِّ، عَنْ عَلِيٍّ، قَالَ: كُنْتُ عِنْدَ النَّبِيِّ  فَأَقْبَلَ أَبُو بَكْرٍ وَعُمَرُ، فَقَالَ: “ هَذَانِ سَيِّدَا كُهُولِ أَهْلِ الْجَنَّةِ مِنَ الأَوَّلِينَ، وَالآخِرِينَ، إِلا النَّبِيِّينَ وَالْمُرْسَلِينَ

4)
`Abdul-Razzaq bin Mansour (Thiqah) -> `Ubaydullah ibn Musa al-`Absi (Thiqah Yatashayya`) -> Yunus ibn abi Ishaq (Saduq Hasan) -> `Amir al-Sha`bi (Thiqah Faqih).
GRADING: Hasan.
Source: Mu`jam ibn al-A`rabi al-Sufi.
نا عَبْدُ الرَّزَّاقِ بْنُ مَنْصُورِ بْنِ أَبَانَ الْبُنْدَارُ، نا عُبَيْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ مُوسَى الْعَبْسِيُّ، نا يُونُسُ، عَنِ الشَّعْبِيِّ، عَنْ عَلِيٍّ، قَالَ: كُنْتُ جَالِسًا مَعَ النَّبِيِّ  إِذْ أَقْبَلَ أَبُو بَكْرٍ وَعُمَرُ، فَقَالَ: “ يَا عَلِيُّ، هَذَانِ سَيِّدَا كُهُولِ أَهْلِ الْجَنَّةِ مِنَ الأَوَّلِينَ وَالآخِرِينَ إِلا النَّبِيِّينَ وَالْمُرْسَلِينَ لا تُخْبِرْهُمَا يَا عَلِيُّ

5)
Hasan bin `Ali bin Shabeeb (Thiqah) -> `Amro bin `Ali bin Bahr (Thiqah Hafiz) -> `Abdullah bin Muhammad bin Yasin (Thiqah Ma’moun) -> Muhammad ibn Ma`mar (Thiqah) -> Ahmad bin `Abdullah ibn Shuja` (Laysa bihi Ba’s) -> al-Qasim bin Muhammad bin `Abbad (Thiqah) -> abu `Asim al-Dahhak (Thiqah Thabt) -> Sufiyan al-Thawri (Thiqah Imam Hujjah) -> Tu`mah bin Ghaylan (Saduq Hasan) -> `Amir al-Sha`bi (Thiqah Faqih).
GRADING: Hasan.
Source: al-Fawa’id al-Ghaylaniyat lil-Shafi`i.
حَدَّثَنَا الْحَسَنُ بْنُ عَلِيِّ بْنِ شَبِيبٍ، ثنا عَمْرُو بْنُ عَلِيٍّ، ح وَحَدَّثَنِي عَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ يَاسِينَ، ثنا ابْنُ مَعْمَرٍ، ح وَثنا أَحْمَدُ بْنُ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ شُجَاعٍ، ثنا الْقَاسِمُ بْنُ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ عَبَّادٍ، قَالُوا: ثنا أَبُو عَاصِمٍ، عَنْ سُفْيَانَ، عَنْ طُعْمَةَ بْنِ غَيْلَانَ، عَنِ الشَّعْبِيِّ، عَنْ عَلِيٍّ، أَنّ النَّبِيَّ  قَالَ: “ أَبُو بَكْرٍ وَعُمَرُ، سَيِّدَا كُهُولِ أَهْلِ الْجَنَّةِ مِنَ الْأَوَّلِينَ وَالْآخِرِينَ مَا خَلَا النَّبِيِّينَ وَالْمُرْسَلِينَ، لَا تُخْبِرْهُمَا

6)
abu al-Ahwas Muhammad bin al-Haytham (Thiqah Thabt) -> Yusuf bin `Adi al-Taymi (Thiqah) -> `Abdul-Rahman al-Muharibi (Thiqah Mudallis) -> Isma`eel ibn abi Khalid (Thiqah Thabt) -> Zubayd bin al-Harith (Thiqah Thabt) -> `Amir al-Sha`bi (Thiqah Faqih).
GRADING: Sahih can be weakened with Tadlees.
Source: al-Fawa’id al-Ghaylaniyat lil-Shafi`i.
عَنْ عَلِيٍّ، قَالَ: “ نَظَرَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ  إِلَى أَبِي بَكْرٍ وَعُمَرَ مُقْبِلَيْنِ، فَقَالَ: يَا عَلِيُّ، هَذَانِ سَيِّدَا كُهُولِ أَهْلِ الْجَنَّةِ مِنَ الْأَوَّلِينَ وَالآخِرِينَ مَا خَلَا النَّبِيِّينَ وَالْمُرْسَلِينَ، لَا تُحَدِّثْهُمَا “، قَالَ: فَمَا حَدَّثْتُهُمَا حَتَّى مَاتَا، ذَكَرَ أَبُو الْأَحْوَصِ مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ الْهَيْثَمِ الْقَاضِي، قَالَ: ثنا يُوسُفُ بْنُ عَدِيٍّ، ثنا الْمُحَارِبِيُّ، عَنْ إِسْمَاعِيلَ بْنِ أَبِي خَالِدٍ، عَنْ زُبَيْدٍ، عَنِ الشَّعْبِيِّ، عَنْ عَلِيٍّ، عَنِ النَّبِيِّ  مِثْلَهُ

What is authentic from the narration of `Abdul-Rahman ibn Sakhr abu Hurayrah (ra):

1)
Muhammad bin Bashar al-`Abdi (Thiqah Hafiz) -> Salim bin Qutaybah al-Khurasani (Thiqah) -> Yunus ibn abi Ishaq (Saduq Hasan) -> `Amir al-Sha`bi (Thiqah Faqih).
GRADING: Hasan.
Source: Fada’il al-Sahaba li-Ahmad ibn Hanbal.
دَّثَنَا عَبْدُ اللَّهِ، قَالَ: حَدَّثَنِي مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ بَشَّارٍ بُنْدَارٌ، قثنا سَالِمُ بْنُ قُتَيْبَةَ، قثنا يُونُسُ بْنُ أَبِي إِسْحَاقَ، عَنِ الشَّعْبِيِّ، عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ، قَالَ: قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ  لأَبِي بَكْرٍ وَعُمَرَ: “ هَذَانِ سَيِّدَا كُهُولِ أَهْلِ الْجَنَّةِ

What is authentic from the narration of Anas ibn Malik (ra):

1)
al-Hasan bin al-Sabbah (Thiqah) -> Muhammad bin Kathir al-Masisi (Saduq Kathir al-Ghalat) -> `Abdul-Rahman al-Awza`ee (Thiqah Ma’moun) -> Qatadah al-Sadusi (Thiqah Thabt Tadlisuhu Khafif).
GRADING: Hasan.
Source: Jami` al-Tirmithy.
حَدَّثَنَا الْحَسَنُ بْنُ الصَّبَّاحِ الْبَزَّارُ ، حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ كَثِيرٍ الْعَبْدِيُّ ، عَنِ الْأَوْزَاعِيِّ ، عَنْ قَتَادَةَ ، عَنْ أَنَسٍ ، قَالَ : قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ : “ لِأَبِي بَكْرٍ وَعُمَرَ هَذَانِ سَيِّدَا كُهُولِ أَهْلِ الْجَنَّةِ مِنَ الْأَوَّلِينَ وَالْآخِرِينَ إِلَّا النَّبِيِّينَ وَالْمُرْسَلِينَ , لَا تُخْبِرْهُمَا يَا عَلِيُّ “ . قَالَ أَبُو عِيسَى : هَذَا حَسَنٌ غَرِيبٌ هَذَا الْوَجْهِ

al-Albani graded the Hadith as “Sahih li-Ghayrihi” based on the multitude of good and acceptable chains.

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    • Homa

      Are you afraid to let everyone read the authentic hadieeths from Shia websites that you have removed them in order to continue your lies? lol

  2. ABSURD RUBBISH , THIS CAN NOT BE A NARRATION FROM MAULA E KAENAAT HAZRAT ALI (a s) FOR THE MUNAFEQEEN ABU BAKR O OMAR.
    THE FACT IS A VERY MUCH KNOWN AND RECORDED WHAT THE RASOOL E KAREEM SAID (saaws) OFTEN FOR HIS GRANDSONS , IMAM HASAN (a s)AND IMAM HUSAIN (a s) THAT THESE TWO SHAHZADAAZ ARE SAYYEDA SHABAAB E AHLE JANNAH ( Leaders of the young peoples of ahle jannah) . EVERYONE WILL BE RAISED AS 32-33 YEAR OLD SO IN JANNAH THERE WILL BE NO TOO YOUNG OR OLD AS SUCH ALSO IT IS ABSURD TO SAY THAT UMAR ABU BAKR WILL BE LEADERS OF YOUNG AND OLDS .

    THROUGH OUT THEIR LIFE WHAT THEY DID MERITING THIS EXCEPT SCHEMING, KHORAFAAT, USURPING, JHOOT , KILLING & TERRORISM .
    FLEERS FROM GHAZWAS AS PER QORA’AN THEY CAN GO ONLY TO JAHANNUM , WHAT TO SAY LEADERS OF JANNAH ,PURE BULLSHIT AND THEY WILL NOT EVEN SMELL THE FRAGERANCE OF JANNAH .

    • Hugh Slaman

      It really is hard to read an entire post composed of capital letters. it is like listening to someone screaming.
      Please calm down, and express yourself in a normal way.

  3. Assalamu `alaykum. jazakallahu khayran ikhwan. how is this to be reconciled with the hadeeth specifying that hasnayn (hasan and hussain) will be the leaders of ash-shabab fil jannah?

  4. MJ Ladak

    Lol. I couldn’t stop laughing at this post which is utter rubbish! The only narration from the Holy Prophet is of his grandsons Hassan & Hussain as the youths of paradise as reported in all Shia/Sunni books.
    These made quoted traditions have no authentic bases and are made up.
    Just think if the Holy Prophet’s daughter was so upset with Abu Baker & Umar, that she refused to speak to them (all traditions have reported this), and the Holy Prophet’s saying that whoever upset Fatemah, has upset me and in turn has upset The Almighty can ever go to heaven leave only being the elder or youth of paradise!
    This is the problem with you people who try to elevate Abu Baker & Umar.
    Think of the correct traditions and open your eyes!
    Umar who broke the door of Fatemah’s house that resulted in the door falling upon Her and killing her child, and hence for her never to forgive Umar, would he ever go to heaven?
    You guys are really misguided!
    Read Sura Nisa, The Event of the Cloak, Sura Maida etc to see the attributes of the true masters of heaven. And research the atrocities committed by Abu Baker, Umar and Usman.
    It may just save you from joining them in the very hot place!

    • Mr.Ladak I thought you had learned something on this blog but it doesn’t seem to be the case.

      You know what? Ali angered Fatima and the Prophet (saw) told Ali that “whoever angers Fatima, angers me”. This was addressed to Ali. Are you now going to do Takfir of Ali and curse him?

      The Prophet (saw) also became angry when someone angered Abubakr. Don’t you know this?

  5. zaheer hussain ur one [*&£$%] ur a munafiq urself ur not even near to the dust which comes from ABU BAKAR RA and UMER RA shoes,and amdin ur so stupid u uself dnt know that these shias kafirssayign tabarah and ur not even saying them anything u assholes r jealous dat why abu bakad and umer usman r greater then ali and others just jealous and ur [*&£$%] irani [*&£$%] shias kafirs….mj ladak u worst than a jew and kafir u pig u rot in hell dats a lie that fatima ra wasnot angry them she loved them u dnt know the whole story u rot in hell all shias

  6. Bilal

    Dear Brothers, Salamalaikum , May Allah bless you all.
    This narration is utterly false as it clearly says that ““Abu Bakr & `Umar masters of youth and elderly of paradise”” which doesn’t make any logic because none of elderly person will go to paradise we all go as a youth so please whoever has made this wrong narration, please do tawbah for one of the sin you have done to for your wish but against the will of Islam”

    Thank you

    • Walaikum Salam,
      It is not wrong, it is just an example and virtue for both of the Companions. Tell me the narration ‘Hassan and Hussain the leaders of youth in paradise” does it mean they are the leaders of Prophet’s (as) aswell? leader of Ali (ra)? Because everyone is youth in Paradise.

  7. Homa

    There are no elders in paradise everyone is a youth in paradise, everyones is from around 28-32 and if u research in depth you will see that Hassan ibn Ali Ibn Abi Talib and Hussain ibn Ali Ibn Abi Talib are the masters of the youth of paradise. Please for your own sakes do some more research because you are truly wasting your time praising these betrayers of Islam and also miss guiding others

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