`Ali asking Fatima for evidence of what she narrated


al-Salamu `Aleykum,

Topic related to the infallibility from the books of Ahlul-Sunnah and possibly the Shia, al-Sadiq Ja`far reports from his father Muhammad bin `Ali in Sahih Muslim the following narration:

وقدم عليٌّ من اليمنِ ببُدنِ النبيِّ صلَّى اللهُ عليه وسلَّمَ . فوجد فاطمةَ رضي اللهُ عنها ممن حلَّ . ولبست ثيابًا صبيغًا . واكتحلَت . فأنكر ذلك عليها . فقالت : إنَّ أبي أمرني بهذا . قال : فكان عليٌّ يقول بالعراقِ : فذهبتُ إلى رسولِ اللهِ صلَّى اللهُ عليه وسلَّمَ مُحَرِّشًا على فاطمةَ . للذي صنعت . مُستفتيًا رسولَ اللهِ صلَّى اللهُ عليه وسلَّمَ فيما ذكرتْ عنه . فأخبرتُه أني أنكرت ُذلك عليها . فقال : صدقتْ صدقت ْ.

[…(In a long narration he says)…`Ali came from the Yemen with the sacrificial animals for the Prophet (May peace be upon him) and found Fatimah (Allah be pleased with her) to be one among those who had put-off Ihram and had put on dyed clothes and had applied antimony. He (`Ali) showed disapproval to it, whereupon she said: My father has commanded me to do this. He (the narrator) said that `Ali used to say in `Iraq: I went to the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) showing annoyance at Fatimah for what she had done, and asked the (verdict) of Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) regarding what she had narrated from him, and told him that I was angry with her, whereupon he said: She has told the truth, she has told the truth.]

Now this is in Shia books as well and InshaAllah we will write the Shia chains of narration to see if it is authentic based on their standards or not.

This narration is found in the Shia main four books.

al-Tusi:

محمد بن علي بن محبوب عن يعقوب بن يزيد عن ابن أبي عمير عن معاوية بن عمار عن أبي عبد الله عليه السلام ومحمد بن الحسين وعلي بن السندي والعباس كلهم عن صفوان عن معاوية بن عمار عن أبي عبد الله عليه السلام

Narrates it in al-Tahdheeb and al-Amali, his chains are as follows:

1- Muhammad bin `Ali bin Mahboub, from Ya`qoub bin Yazid, from ibn abi `Umayr, from Mu`awiyah bin `Ammar, from abi `Abdillah (as)…
2- Muhammad bin Husayn, and `Ali bin al-Sindi, and al-`Abbas, all of them, from Safwan, from  Mu`awiyah bin `Ammar, from abi `Abdillah (as)…

al-Kulayni:

عَلِيُّ بْنُ إِبْرَاهِيمَ عَنْ أَبِيه ومُحَمَّدُ بْنُ يَحْيَى عَنْ أَحْمَدَ بْنِ مُحَمَّدٍ جَمِيعاً عَنِ ابْنِ أَبِي عُمَيْرٍ عَنْ حَمَّادٍ عَنِ الْحَلَبِيِّ عَنْ أَبِي عَبْدِ اللَّه
عن عَلِيُّ بْنُ إِبْرَاهِيمَ عَنْ أَبِيه ومُحَمَّدُ بْنُ إِسْمَاعِيلَ عَنِ الْفَضْلِ بْنِ شَاذَانَ جَمِيعاً عَنِ ابْنِ أَبِي عُمَيْرٍ عَنْ مُعَاوِيَةَ بْنِ عَمَّارٍ عَنْ أَبِي عَبْدِ اللَّه

Narrates it in al-Kafi with these chains:

1- `Ali bin Ibrahim, from his father, and Muhammad bin Yahya, from Ahmad bin Muhammad, all of them, from ibn abi `Umayr, from Hamad, from al-Halabi, from abi `Abdillah (as)…
2- `Ali bin Ibrahim, from his father, and Muhammad bin Isma`eel, from al-Fadl bin Shadhan, all of them, from ibn abi `Umayr, from Mu`awiyah bin `Ammar, from abi `Abdillah (as)…

al-Saduq:

أبي رحمه الله قال حدثنا سعد بن عبد الله عن أحمد بن محمد بن عيسى عن محمد بن عمير عن حماد عن الحلبي عن أبي عبد الله عليه السلام

Narrated it in al-Fqih and al-`Ilal with the following chain:

1- My father (rah) said: Sa`d bin `Abdullah told us, from Ahmad bin Muhammad bin `Isa, from Muhammad bin `Umayr, from Hamad, from al-Halabi, from abu `Abdillah (as)…

By Hani
Original Article:
http://islamic-forum.net/index.php?showtopic=20608
Posted by 13S2010

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2 responses to “`Ali asking Fatima for evidence of what she narrated

  1. zaheerhusain khan

    THERE ARE MANY FABRICATIONS, FAKES AND DECEPTIONS . THIS CAN NOT BE WRITTEN BY ANY SHIA SCHOLAR NEITHER THIS STORY COULD BE TRUE . THIS IS SIMPLY A CASE OF YOUR GRUDGE , YOUR NIFAQ , YOUR ENMITY, IN FRIENDSHIP AND ADMIRATION OF THOSE MUNAFEQEEN WHO YOU ADMIRE, REVER AND FOLLOW AND FOLLOLW YOU ARE WHICH SHALL CONTINUE THEY BEING IN YOUR FRONT AND YOU GOING DOWN TO THE PREDETERMINED DESTINATION . HUBBE ALI IS THE ONLY MEANS OF SALVATION , HATE OF HIM OR HIS FAMILY WILL LEAD YOU TO  NO WHERE BUT HELL .  REST Assure 

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