`Ali about `Uthman: There is nothing between us except goodness

Text of Hadith:

[Juray ibn Kulayb said: I saw that `Ali was ordering something and `Uthman was prohibiting from it. So I said to `Ali : “There is something wrong between you both.” He replied : “There is nothing between us apart from good, but the better one of us is the one who is more obedient to this religion.”

In another narration the matter being prohibited is the Mut`ah, meaning of Hajj.]

Chain #1: al-Matalib al-`Aliyah fi Zawa’id al-Masaneed al-Thamaniyah by Ibn Hajar:
وَقَالَ مُسَدَّدٌ : ثنا يَحْيَى ، عَنْ شُعْبَةَ ، عَنْ قَتَادَةَ ، عَنْ جُرَيِّ بْنِ كُلَيْبٍ ، قَالَ : رَأَيْتُ عَلِيًّا رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ يَأْمُرُ بِشَيْءٍ وَعُثْمَانَ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ يَنْهَى عَنْهُ ، فَقُلْتُ لِعَلِيٍّ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ : إِنَّ بَيْنَكُمَا لَشَرًّا . قَالَ : ” مَا بَيْنَنَا إِلَّا خَيْرٌ ، وَلَكِنْ خَيْرُنَا أَتْبَعُنَا لِهَذَا الدِّينِ ” .

Chain #2: al-Nasikh wal-Mansoukh by al-Qassim ibn Salam:
حَدَّثَنَا حَجَّاجٌ ، عَنْ شُعْبَةَ ، عَنْ قَتَادَةَ قَالَ : سَمِعْتُ جُرَيَّ بْنَ كُلَيْبٍ يَقُولُ : رَأَيْتُ عُثْمَانَ يَنْهَى عَنِ الْمُتْعَةِ وَعَلِيٌّ ، يَأْمُرُ بِهَا قَالَ : فَأَتَيْتُ عَلِيًّا ، فَقُلْتُ : إِنَّ بَيْنَكُمَا لَشَرًّا أَنْتَ تَأْمُرُ بِهَا وَعُثْمَانُ يَنْهَى عَنْهَا ، فَقَالَ : ” مَا بَيْنَنَا إِلا خَيِّرٌ ، وَلَكِنْ خَيْرُنَا أَتْبَعُنَا لِهَذَا الدِّينِ ” .


The companions would openly differ in some rulings, especially when it comes to following some Sunan, but the difference does not create hatred and enmity as the Shia would like to portray. In fact, this narration goes even deeper to disprove Imamah itself, since `Uthman (ra) is claimed to be an evil usurper and oppressor by the Shia while `Ali (ra) says “There is nothing between us except goodness.” Meaning he absolutely and completely rejected the Shia claim.

For original article and grading of narrations click here.

By Hani
Posted by 13S2010


Filed under Ahlulbait-Sahaba relations, Articles, History

3 responses to “`Ali about `Uthman: There is nothing between us except goodness

  1. And do you know why I call this man Usman ‘ funny ‘ because he got himself called ” zun noorain ” mean a person with two tail lights , how he can be a possessor of two lights, front or tail does not matter, when his people don’t beleive in khilqat e noori of Rasool Allah (saaws) Only Shia believe that Mohammad (saaws) khilqat was from a noor which was already created before Hazrat Aadam was born .
    Then the Sunnies wrongly say that Janab Khadeejah (saaa) when married to the Hazrat Mohammad (s) was a widow and had three girls , two of them later got married to Usman . All wrong .They were in fact the daughters of her deceased sister. When she married the Rasool (s) it was her first marriage and her age also is described all wrong , she was 28 , only 3 years senior to her husband . [REST OF COMMENT REMOVED BY ADMIN].

    • Don’t be such an ignorant and enemy of Prophet’s (saw) family.

      The Prophet (saw) had four daughters. They were HIS daughters not the daughters of Umul Mominin Khadija’s (ra) deceased sister. This lie that Prophet (saw) had only one daughter was started by one of your Shia scholars. We know why you deny other daughters of the Prophet (saw).

      – The Quran says the Prophet (saw) had more than one daughter:

      يَا أَيُّهَا النَّبِيُّ قُل لِّأَزْوَاجِكَ وَبَنَاتِكَ وَنِسَاءِ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ يُدْنِينَ عَلَيْهِنَّ مِن جَلَابِيبِهِنَّ ۚ ذَٰلِكَ أَدْنَىٰ أَن يُعْرَفْنَ فَلَا يُؤْذَيْنَ ۗ وَكَانَ اللَّـهُ غَفُورًا رَّحِيمًا

      O Prophet, tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to bring down over themselves [part] of their outer garments. That is more suitable that they will be known and not be abused. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful.

      – It is also mentioned in Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim that Prophet (saw) had four daughters and two of them were Ruqqaya (ra) and Umm Kulthum (ra) who both married Amir al-Muminin Uthman (ra).

      – Even Shia books say the Prophet (saw) had four daughters and Ruqqaya and Umml Kulthum were two of them.
      محمد بن يعقوب عن علي بن ابراهيم عن ابيه عن ابن محبوب عن علي بن رئاب عن عبد صالح عليه السلام قال، ادع بهذا الدعاء في شهر رمضان مستقبل دخول السنة
      . . .
      اللهم صل على القاسم والطاهر ابني نبيك، اللهم صل على رقية بنت نبيك والعن من آذى نبيك فيها، اللهم صل على ام كلثوم بنت نبيك
      Online reference from Shia website:

      – For full refutation and answer check this link:
      How many daughters did the Prophet (saw) have?

  2. abu hamza

    Jazak Allah brother Hani , May Allah reward you

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