The Madhab of `Ali (ra) in Salat al-Janazah


al-Salamu `Aleykum,

In this thread we will show the Madhab of al-Khalifah `Ali ibn abi Talib (ra) when it comes to the Janazah prayer and how he honors the companions of the Prophet (SAWS). Then we will compare this to the Shia and their Madhab in Janazah and see the difference between `Ali (ra) and those who claim to follow him.

حدثني زيد بن علي عن أبيه عن جده عن علي عليهم السلام انه كان إذا صلى على جنازة رجل قام عند سرته وإن كانت امرأة قام حيال ثديها.


In Musnad Zayd ibn `Ali, from his fathers, that `Ali (ra) when he would pray the Janazah on a man he would stand near the belly and in the case of a woman he would be facing her chest.

And `Ali (ra) would pray the Salat of al-Janazah with four Takbeerat, but he would honor the companions of the Prophet (SAWS) by adding more Takbeerat.

أن إبراهيم بن محمد الصيرفي حدثنا قال ثنا عبد الله بن رجاء قال ثنا زائدة قال ثنا يزيد بن أبى زياد عن عبد الله بن معقل قال : صليت مع علي على جنازة فكبر عليها خمسا ثم التفت فقال إنه من أهل بدر ثم صليت مع علي على جنائز كل ذلك كان يكبر عليها أربعا


It is stated in Sharh Ma`ani al-Athar and Musannaf ibn abi Shaybah that `Abdullah ibn Mu`qal said: “I prayed with `Ali (ra) on a Janazah and he did five Takbeerat on it, then he turned and said: “He is from the people of Badr.” then I prayed with him on other Jana’iz and he would make four Takbeerat.”

عن عبد الله بن معقل : أن علي بن أبي طالب – رضي الله عنه – صلى على سهل بن حنيف فكبر عليه ستا ، ثم التفت إلينا فقال : إنه بدري


It is stated in Musannaf `Abdul-Razzaq and Sharh Ma`ani al-Athar and al-Muhalla and al-Mughni and al-I`tibar and Sunan al-Bayhaqi and Musnnaf ibn abi Shaybah that `Abdullah ibn Mu`qal said: `Ali ibn abi Talib (ra) prayed on Sahl bin Hunayf so he made six Takbeerat, then he turned towards us and said: “He is from the people of Badr.”

ثبت عند الطحاوي بإسناد صحيح أن عليا :صلى على أبي قتادة فكبر سبعا وكان بدريا


It is stated in Musannaf ibn abi Shaybah and Sharh Ma`ani al-Athaar and al-Mughni and Sunan al-Bayhaqi from the narration of Musa bin `Abdullah bin Yazid that `Ali (ra) prayed on abu Qatadah (ra) and made seven Takbeerat and he was from the people of Badr.

حدثنا فهد قال ثنا محمد بن سعيد قال أنا حفص بن غياث عن عبد الملك بن سلع الهمداني عن عبد خير قال : كان علي رضي الله عنه يكبر على أهل بدر ستا وعلى أصحاب النبي صلى الله عليه و سلم خمسا وعلى سائر الناس أربعا


It is stated in Sharh al-Ma`ani and al-Mughni and Musnad Zayd bi-Sharh al-Rawd al-Nadeer and Sunan al-Bayhaqi and al-Awsat by ibn al-Munthir, from the narration of `Abd Khayr: “`Ali (ra) used to make six Takbeerat on the people of Badr, and the companions of the Prophet (SAWS) five, and on the rest of the people four.”


حدثنا حفص عن حجاج عن عمير بن سعيد قال صليت خلف علي على يزيد بن المكفف فكبر عليه أربعا .

حدثنا عباد بن العوام عن حجاج عن عمير عن علي مثله .


This is why he prayed only four on Yazid bin al-Mukaffaf al-Nakh`ee, it is stated in `Abdul-Razzaq and al-Sharh and al-Bayhaqi and al-Muhalla, from `Umayr bin Sa`eed that he said: “I prayed behind `Ali (ra) on Yazid bin al-Mukaffaf so he made four Takbeerat for him.”

So may Allah grant them peace and raise their ranks and the ranks of those who acknowledged their ranks.

عن أبيه ، عن جده ، عن علي رضي الله عنهم في الصلاة على الميت ، قال :  تبدأ في التكبيرة الأولى بالحمد ، والثناء على الله تبارك وتعالى ، وفي الثانية الصلاة على النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم ، وفي الثالثة الدعاء لنفسك وللمؤمنين ، والمؤمنات ، وفي الرابعة الدعاء للميت والاستغفار له ، وفي الخامسة تكبر ، ثم تسلم


`Ali ibn abi Talib (ra) would then say while teaching the people the prayer of al-Janazah in Musnad Zayd: He said about the prayer on the dead: “You begin in the first Takbeerah by thanking and praising Allah the blessed and high, in the second you send your Salat on the Prophet (SAWS), in the third you make Du`a for yourself and the believing men and women, in the fourth you make Du`a for the dead and ask Allah to forgive him, and in the fifth you make Takbeer then you make Tasleem.”



قَالَ أَحْمَدُ بْنُ الْقَاسِمِ قِيلَ لِأَبِي عَبْدِ اللّهِ أَتَعْرِفُ عَنْ أَحَدٍ كَانَ يُسَلّمُ عَلَى الْجِنَازَةِ تَسْلِيمَتَيْنِ ؟ قَالَ لَا وَلَكِنْ عَنْ سِتّةٍ مِنْ الصّحَابَةِ أَنّهُمْ كَانُوا يُسَلّمُونَ تَسْلِيمَةً وَاحِدَةً خَفِيفَةً عَنْ يَمِينِهِ فَذَكَرَ ابْنَ عُمَرَ وَابْنَ عَبّاسٍ وَأَبَا هُرَيْرَةَ وَوَاثِلَةَ بْنَ الْأَسْقَعِ وَابْنَ أَبِي أَوْفَى وَزَيْدَ بْنَ ثَابِتٍ . وَزَادَ الْبَيْهَقِيّ : عَلِيّ بْنَ أَبِي طَالِبٍ وَجَابِرَ بْنَ عَبْدِ اللّهِ وَأَنَسَ بْنَ مَالِكٍ وَأَبَا أُمَامَةَ بْنَ سَهْلِ بْنِ حُنَيْفٍ فَهَؤُلَاءِ عَشَرَةٌ مِنْ الصّحَابَةِ .


Ibn al-Qayyim said in Zad-ul-Mee`ad that `Ali (ra) used to make one Tasleem to his right at the end:

Ahmad bin al-Qassim said: it was said to abi `Abdillah, did you know that anyone used to make two Tasleem on the Janazah? he said: “No, but it reached us from six of the companions that they used to make a subtle single Tasleemah to the right.” he mentioned from them ibn `Umar and ibn `Abbas and abu Hurayrah and Wathilah ibn al-Asqa` and ibn abi Awfa and Zayd bin Thabit. al-Bayhaqi added: `Ali ibn abi Talib and Jabir bin `Abdullah and Anas ibn Malik and abu Amamah bin Sahl bin Hunayf, so these are ten from the companions.

حدثنا أبو الأحوص عن منصور عن عبد الله بن عبد الرحمن بن أبزى قال كان علي يقول في الصلاة على الميت اللهم اغفر لأحيائنا وأمواتنا وألف بين قلوبنا وأصلح ذات بيننا واجعل قلوبنا على قلوب خيارنا اللهم اغفر له اللهم ارحمه اللهم ارجعه إلى خير مما كان فيه اللهم عفوك .


And from Du`a of `Ali (ra) that ibn abi Shaybah and `Abdul-Razzaq narrated with their Isnad to him, that he used to say: “O Allah, grant forgiveness to our living and our dead,and bring our hearts together, and reconcile between us, and make our hearts follow the hearts of the best among us. O Allah, forgive him. O Allah, have mercy on him. O Allah, give him something better than what he had. O Allah, your pardon.”

and so on…

Now by Allah I want you to compare this `Ali (ra) with that fictional Madhab of the Shia Rafidha who curse the companions and the pious predecessors while praying on their dead bodies:

http://islamic-forum.net/index.php?showtopic=16552&st=0&p=108639&fromsearch=1&#entry108639

By Hani
Posted by 13S2010

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