Shia killed hussain[ra]: Reason behind mourning (matam) on Ashura


here we have discussed part 1 of this series “Shia killed hussain[ra]”: click here

It’s really easy to prove from Shia sources that the killers of Hussein RA were Shia.

Let’s take an example here about “al Tawwabun” they are the people of Kufah who lied to imam Hussein RA and then got him killed because they Sided with the opposing army… later they rebelled as a result of gilt.

The word “Tawwabun” comes from the word Tawbah meaning repentance, So what were the Shia trying to repent from?… Let’s see what the Shia website says:

http://www.al-shia.org/html/ara/ahl/?mod=sire&id=166

ثورة التوابين
(من موقع ال بيت الشيعي )

مقدّمة
كانت الكوفة بعد واقعة كربلاء تتحسّس أكثر من غيرها ثقل الذنب ومرارة الندم، باعتبارها طرفاً مباشراً ومسؤولاً في قضية الإمام الحسين(عليه السلام).
فهي التي ألحّت عليه بالخروج إلى أرض الثورة التي تتعطّش إلى قائدها المنتظر، ثمّ تقاعست في أحرج الظروف عن الالتزام بما وعدت به والوفاء بالعهد الذي قطعته على نفسها.
وإذا كانت الأحداث التي تلاحقت بصورة مفاجئة بُعَيد تحرّكه(عليه السلام) من الحجاز قد حالت دون القيام بواجبها وتنفيذ مخطّطها المرسوم، فإنّ ذلك لم يكن ليُخفِّف عنها عمق المأساة؛ لأنّها افتقدت بمصرعه(عليه السلام) الشخصية الأكثر جدارة التي وضعت فيها الشيعة كلّ آمالها وطموحها للوصول إلى الحكم. تشكيل الثورة

أخذ أنصار الثورة الحسينية، يجتمعون بعد مقتل الإمام الحسين(عليه السلام) مباشرة في إطار من السرِّية التامّة، وعند الاجتماع يعقدون مناقشات أشبه ما تكون بالنقد الذاتي، وذلك لمحاسبة أنفسهم على التقصير الذي أظهروه إزاء الحسين(عليه السلام)، والتشاور على كيفية التكفير عن الذنب وغسل العار الذي لحق بهم نتيجة هذا التخاذل.
فتزعّم التحرّك الشيعي حينئذٍ خمسة من كبار الزعماء الكوفيين المتقدّمين في السنّ، الذين ارتبطوا تاريخياً بالحركة الشيعية، وهم:
1ـ سليمان بن صُرد الخزاعي، صحابي جليل كان اسمه يسار، وسمّاه رسول الله(صلى الله عليه وآله) سليمان، وهو من أصحاب الإمام علي(عليه السلام)، شارك معه في حروبه.
2ـ المُسَيّب بن نجبه الفزاري.
3ـ عبد الله بن سعد بن نفيل الأزدي.
4ـ عبد الله بن وال التميمي.
5ـ رفاعة بن شدّاد البجلي.
وكلّهم من صحابة الإمام علي(عليه السلام) ومن المؤيِّدين له.
فبدؤوا يمارسون نشاطهم في الخفاء، ويبشِّرون بدعوتهم الانتقامية في أوساط الشيعة، بعيداً عن مراقبة السلطة وجواسيسها المنتشرين في كلّ مكان.
وشكّلوا منظمة سرّية نواتها نحو مائة معارض، ولم تلبث حتّى تحوّلت إلى معارضة شيعية كبرى تحمل اسم (التوّابين).
وقد صارت هذه التسمية هي الغالبة على حركة سليمان ورفاقه، منبثقة من الآية الكريمة التي أصبحت شعارهم: )فَتُوبُوا إِلَى بَارِئِكُمْ فَاقَتُلُوا أَنْفُسَكُمْ ذَلِكُمْ خَيْرٌ لَكُمْ عِنْدَ بَارِئِكُمْ فَتَابَ عَلَيْكُمْ إِنّهُ هُوَ التّوّابُ الرّحِيْمُ((1).
وكان الاجتماع الأوّل الذي ضمّ هؤلاء قد عُقد في منزل سليمان بن صُرد، وكان أوّل المتكلّمين في الاجتماع المُسيّب بن نجبه، وبعد أن أنهى كلامه بتشديده على توحيد الصفوف، تكلّم بعدئذٍ زعيم آخر هو رفاعة بن شدّاد، فأثنى على ما جاء في خُطبةِ المسيّب، وأوصى باتِّخاذ سليمان بن صُرد زعيماً للثورة. أهداف الثورة

يمكن تلخيص أهداف ثورة التوّابين بالنقاط التالية:
1ـ إزاحة الأُمويّين من السلطة في الكوفة وتحويلها إلى قاعدة للحكم الشيعي الذي ينبغي أن يسود في مختلف أقاليم الدولة.
2ـ أخذ القصاص من المسؤولين ومن قتلة الإمام الحسين(عليه السلام)، سواء الأُمويّين أم المتواطئين معهم.
3ـ تجسيد فكرة الاستشهاد، وذلك بالتنازل عن الأملاك واعتزال النساء.
4ـ الإلحاح في طلب التوبة عن طريق التضحية بالنفس.
وانتهى الاجتماع بهذه المقرّرات الحاسمة، واختيار سليمان بن صُرد زعيماً لهم؛ وذلك لسبقه في الإسلام وصحبة الرسول الأكرم(صلى الله عليه وآله)، وأوثقهم علاقة بالإمام علي وأبنائه(عليهم السلام)، وأرفعهم شأناً في مكانته القبلية. زيارة قبر الحسين(عليه السلام)

جمع الصحابي الجليل سليمان بن صرد الخزاعي ـ الذي سُمّي أمير التوّابين ـ أنصاره في منطقة النخيلة، في الخامس من ربيع الثاني 65ﻫ*، ثمّ سار بهم إلى قبر الإمام الحسين(عليه السلام)، وكان عددهم يقارب أربعة آلاف رجل، فما أن وصلوا إلى القبر الشريف، حتّى صاحوا صيحة واحدة، وازدحموا حول القبر أكثر من ازدحام الحُجّاج على الحجر الأسود عند لثمه، فما رؤي أكثر باكياً من ذلك اليوم، فترحّموا عليه، وتابوا عنده من خذلانه وترك القتال، وتجديد العهد معه(عليه السلام). معركة عين الوردة

تحرّك القائد سليمان بن صرد ـ بعد زيارة قبر الإمام الحسين(عليه السلام)، وتجديد العهد معه ـ مع جنده قاصدين الشام، فوصلوا إلى الأنبار، ومنها إلى القيارة وهيت، ثمّ إلى قرقيسيا ـ وهي بلدة على مصبّ نهر الخابور في الفرات ـ وبعدها منطقة عين الوردة.
وفي الثاني والعشرين من جمادى الأُولى 65ﻫ، دارت في منطقة عين الوردة رحى الحرب بينهم وبين جند الشام، وأبلى التوّابون بلاءً حسناً، فكان لهم النصر أوّل الأمر، غير أنّ ابن زياد سرعان ما أمدّ جيش الشام باثني عشر ألفاً بقيادة الحصين بن نمير، ثمّ بثمانية آلاف بقيادة شرحبيل بن ذي الكلاع، فأحاطوا بالتوّابين من كلّ جانب، فلمّا رأى سليمان ما يلقى أصحابه من شدّة، ترجّل عن فرسه ـ وهو يومئذٍ في الثالثة والتسعين من عمره ـ وكسر جفن سيفه وصاح بأصحابه: يا عباد الله، من أراد البكور إلى ربّه والتوبة من ذنبه والوفاء بعهده، فليأت إليَّ.
فاستجاب له الكثيرون، وحذوا حذوه، وكسروا جفون سيوفهم، وقتلوا من أهل الشام مقتلة عظيمة، حتّى أُصيب زعيمهم سليمان بسهم، فوثب ووقع، وهو يقول: فزت وربّ الكعبة، وحمل الراية بعده المسيّب بن نجبه، فقاتل بها حتّى استشهد، بعد جهود مستمية، وتبعه بقية القوّاد وعدد كبير من المقاتلين، باستثناء رفاعة بن شداد الذي اعترف بالهزيمة وأدرك عدم جدوى القتال، وكانت القيادة قد انتقلت إليه، فأصدر أوامره سرّاً إلى البقية الباقية من التوّابين بالانسحاب والتراجع.
وتمّت عملية التراجع بنجاحٍ تام، وابتعد التوّابون المنسحبون عن ميدان المعركة، وأصبحوا في منأىً عن مطاردة الجيش الأُموي المنتصر، الذي استنكف عن محاولة اللحاق بهم.
وانتهت المعركة إلى جانب أهل الشام، بعد أن ترك التوّابون أمثلة رائعة للبطولة والفداء، التي استمدّت روحها من مواقف الإمام الحسين وأهل بيته وأصحابه(عليهم السلام)، والتي لها صداها في النفوس، وأثرها القوي في التاريخ الإنساني كلّه. وأخيراً

لا يمكن أن نقول بأنّ هذه الثورة انهزمت أو فشلت عسكرياً؛ لأنّ الفشل والإخفاق لم يكن أمراً مفاجئاً بالنسبة لها.
لذلك توجّه قادتها وأنصارها إلى المعركة، وهم يشعرون في قَرارة أنفسهم أنّهم متّجهين إلى نهايتهم المحتومة، ومحاولين التكفير عن ذنوبهم بالانتقام من قتلة الإمام الحسين(عليه السلام)، أو الموت في سبيل ذلك، فحقّقوا بذلك أهدافهم المرسومة، وكان لهم من النتائج ما أرادوا(2).
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1ـ البقرة: 54.
2ـ اُنظر: التوّابون: 95. بقلم : محمد أمين نجف

The Revolution of al Tawwabun(Shia army in Iraq):

Intro:

More than any of the others the city of Al Kufah (Iraq) tasted the bitterness of regret, because they were the party which was directly responsible for what happened to Imam al Hussein PBUH.

This was the city which insisted that the Imam comes to the land of rebellion which thirsts for its awaited leader, then it backed out in the most difficult time and did not fulfil its promise (…) it (Kufah) lost with his death the most deserving person that all Shia placed their hopes on so that they can rule the land.

Formation of the Rebellion:

The Supporters of the Husseini revolution held top secret meetings directly after the death of Imam Hussein PBUH, they did self criticism to punish themselves for their failure in aiding Hussein PBUH, they consulted in how to repent (Tawbah) for their sin and wash away the disgrace. The ones who became leaders of the Shia movement back then were five from al Kufah and they were old in age and tied historically to the shia movment.

They were:
1-Suleiman bin Surd al Khuza’ee a companion whose name was Yasar and the Prophet PBUH named him Suleiman and He is a Companion of Imam Ali who aided him in his wars.
2-Al Museeb bin Najbah al Fuzari.
3-Abdullah bin Sa’ad bin Nufayl al Azdi.
4-Abdullah bin Wael al tamimi.
5-Rifa’ah bin Shaddad al Bajli.

And They Were all Companions of Imam Ali PBUH and his supporters.

They started their activity in secret and preached their vengeful call between the Shia away from the spies of the government.

They formed a secret organization of one hundred oppositionists and became a large opposition group known as al Tawwabun.

This had become the popular name for the movement of Suleiman and his comrades, based on this verse from the Chapter of Surat al baqarah {Moses said to his people, “My people, you have done wrong to yourselves by worshipping the calf. Seek pardon from your Lord and slay yourselves.” He told them that it would be best for them in the sight of their Lord, Who would forgive them, for He is All-forgiving and All-merciful.} (2:54).

The first meeting between them was in the house of Suleiman bin Surd and the first speaker was al Musyab bin Najbah and after he finished his speech about uniting the lines another leader spoke and it was Rifa’ah bin Shaddad and he agreed with him and recommended Suleiman as the leader.

The Goals of this revolution:

1- Removing the Umayyads from leadership in Kufah and transforming it to a base for the Shia rule that will spread to all the Islamic state.
2- Doing Qisas on the killers of Imam Hussein PBUH whether they are the Umayyads or those who allied with them.
3- Glorifying the idea of Martyrdom by giving up their property and abandoning women.
4- Ceaselessly asking for Tawbah(repentance for Sins) by sacrificing themselves.
(…)

Visiting the Grave of Hussein PBUH:

The Companion Suleiman – who was called Ameer al tawwabin – Gathered his supporters in al Nakhilah on the 5th from Rabi’i al thani year 65 A.H. they then marched to the grave of Hussein PBUH and they were around 4 thousand Men and when they reached the honourable grave they screamed and they gathered around the grave with more enthusiasm as The Pilgrims who gather around the black stone (in Mecca) and they cried more than any others ever did and they repented from failing him and backing away from battle then they renewed their Allegiance and loyalty to him PBUH.

My Comment: Masahallah. First they killed hazrat e hussain(ra), & starts weeping, so that hussain(ra) will forgive them & then go to his grave to renew their allegiance like before.

Inshallah ALLAH will throw these filty rafidi shia’s in hell fire.

But that was not the end, they did same with hazrat e zaid (rah) ibn ali ibn hussain ibn ali ibn abi talib, i.e. why hazta zaid (rah) called them ar-rafida.

قال عيسى بن يونس جاءت الرافضة زيدا فقالوا تبرأ من أبي بكر وعمر حتى ننصرك قال بل أتولاهما قالوا إذا نرفضك فمن ثم قيل لهم الرافضة
‘Eesaa bin Yoonus said: The Raafidah came to Zayd and said to him, ”Free yourself from Abee Bakr and ‘Umar so that we can aid you.“
He replied, ”Rather I will give allegiance to them (i.e. Aboo Bakr and ‘Umar).” They said, “Then we reject you.” So then it was said to them, “ar-Raafidah” (the rejecters).”

Battle of Ein al Ward:

(…Then they marched to Syria and faced the Umayyads in Battle and their leader was hit with an arrow and died and after a long battle the flag of the Tawwabun was given to Rifa’ah bin Shaddad who admitted defeat gave orders to his followers to retreat…)

They retreated successfully and they pulled back from the battle field until the victorious Umayyad army could no longer reach them. the battle was for the people of al Sham (Syria) but the Tawwabun gave great heroic example of self sacrifice taken from the stand of Imam Hussein and his family and companions PBUH that left a mark in the history of human kind.

We cannot say that this revolution was defeated or that it failed militarily; because failure was not surprising for the leaders and supporters of the revolution for they knew in themselves that they were facing certain death trying to repent for their sins by taking revenge for the killers of Hussein PBUH and so they realised their goals.

source: Al Tawwabun p95 by Muhammad Ameen Najaf.

My comment: See how easily they can blame anyone: that you killed imam hussain!

But reality is crystal clear. Shia betrayed hazrat e hussain(ra), & attacked on him, killed him. Then starts blaming umayyad for this!

& Now they starts hiding between the words of “love for ahle-bayt”, but all knows what is the real history.

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33 responses to “Shia killed hussain[ra]: Reason behind mourning (matam) on Ashura

  1. Imran Naqvi

    Obviously the hawabees are in the house I cannot believe that yazid lannat on him until the day of judgement. Has been classed as a shia wake up people and realise the tryth and not the lies that u have made up. First u slaughter our Imams 10 by poison 1 beheaded and u try and turn this on the people following the true path. Imam Medhdi (as) will rule and Take revenge for all of the 72 sects that have been making their own Islam remember brothers and sisters the prophet saw said ” I am leaving with u the quarn and my ahlaybait do not separate them or u will stray” exactly what the ummayah ruling have been doing for over 1400 years inshallah our Imam will come and take revenge over the Munafiq and munkar. Allah huma sallay Ala muhammah wa alay muhammed.

    • Shani

      No one said yazid lanat was Shia, wot the bro was saying is Shia wrote letters pledging allegiance then broke allegiance and joined in with yazidi forces.

      Yes prophet left behind two weighty things but how does this help you. You have to include all ahle bayt not just your 13, because remember prophet said I’m leaving my ahle bayt not 12 imams so in that case you’re wrong for calling ALL the other 72 sects misguided eg what about Ismaili , zaydi Shia why you call them misguided they also have imams from ahle bayt.

      As for us Sunnis we respect ALL ahle batt including wives whereas you Shia leave wives out and some imams out eg; imam zayd ibn Ali who you turned your back on!! Ring any bells.

      Your imam will come and take revenge??
      Is YOUR imam Mahdi coming to make peace and unity?? Because ge sounds like a blood thirsty tyrant, the way you make him sound.

      For the record Sunnis hate all those who poisoned or martyred ahle bayt.

  2. Muneer

    It z true fact …

  3. alphasigma

    Salam
    Who was Umar ibn e Saad ? A shia ? who was Ibn e Ziyad ? a shia ?

  4. Sajk

    Who was Umar ibn e Saad ? A shia ? who was Ibn e Ziyad ? a shia ?

  5. Khursheed

    actually the shia’s did not kill Imam Hussain, if you read the books, The people of kufa sent the imam a letter that stated “We will pledge our allegiance with you and we have NO imam”…brothers and sisters by definition a Shia is someone who always has an Imam. When Imam Ali passed away We had Imam Hassan, then Imam Hussain, Then Imam Zain and so forth.

    • Shani

      Firstly the birth place of Shiism is kufa (ask Sunni or Shia alim).

      Question is if there were no Shia in kufa then where were they?? on the moon?? 

      Shia called imam Hussein then they turned their back, its that simple. 

      Why is it surprising that shia turned their back on ahle bayt you done it with imam zayd ibn Ali, imam Ali (just look at nahj ul balagah where imam Ali rebukes his Shia kufans) etc etc.

      You said definition of a Shia is one who always has imam. Well you’re not Shia then, where is your imam?? Hiding!! Do you even know the meaning of the word imam?
      Imam is a guide, leader, please enlighten me how your current imam is leading you?

      • umair

        just ask them brother that what happened to khumaini when he died.for four days he was on the ground naked and he did not had been put in his grave.
        that is their biggest leader in modern time.

      • jdhhdj

        Assalamu Alaikum,

        This is really a silly idea that is widely circulating in the hearts and minds of many people especially with the so called Ahlul- Sunna Wal Jammaa in the middle east and elsewhere.

        Ok! If we want to use the same naïve basis of forming decisions and perceptions that they use, we can say that you people of Mecca, Hejaz and Arabian Peninsula fought against the Prophet (peace be upon him and his family) and then killed his uncle Hamza (peace be upon him), but they will say it was not us, it was our disbelieving ancestors who did this and we believe in the message of Islam so you cannot blame us.

        Ok! We can also say in the same context that you people were the ones who did a runner and fled during the battles of Ahud and Hunayn, and left the Prophet (peace be upon him and family) on his own with few faithful ones around him and you caused his injuries and allowed his blessed blood to drench his beard, they would say but it was not us, it was some Sahaba who did so and those Sahaba (i.e. companions) showed remorse for their shameful action of retreat later on.

        But we can add that they are the ones you refer to, they are your heroes and role models, they might, just might say in return, we did not attend those battles and those retreating fleeing ones were wrong to do so.
        And as such we can confidently say that we did not kill Imam Al Hussain (peace be upon him), but the ones who participated in that atrocious crime were you, the Nawasib Bakris, the Shia of Bani Umayah, and it is still you because you are loyal and committed to those olden Nasisbi characters.

        They might say that some of you people are the descendents of those criminals, we can safely reply that if some of us are traced by blood relation to those people, then we do Bara’a from them (i.e. we shun and disassociate ourselves from them) and curse them and their deeds, but you will not dare and do the same Bara’a and send your la’anat against those who fled and allowed the Prophet (peace be upon him and his family) to get severely wounded, we dare you?

        It is ok for the prophet that you claim you love to bleed and get injured due to the fleeing of many of your beloved Sahaba, you would rather get the Prophet (peace be upon him and his family) get pain and harm and not to say that you perform Bara’a from those who allowed that to happen.

        My God, we wonder sometimes; who is your prophet? Is he Mohammed (peace be upon him and his family)? Or is he Omar?

        Looking at the prayers performed with crossing hands over each other, dropping Haya ala Khair al a’Amal from the Adhan (i.e. Call to prayer), adding Hebrew language to your prayers by saying “amen”, doing your Taraweeh in the month of Ramadan, jumping straight up to stand after Sujood (i.e. prostration in prayer) without pausing, washing your feet and legs up to your knees in Wuthou (i.e. ablution performed in preparation for prayers) and not to mention, this finger pointing during and while half way in the prayer ritual, we do wonder who is your prophet? Or who are your prophets?

      • Our Prophet is Prophet Muhammad bin Abdullah (saw). You have replaced the Prophet (saw), even replaced Allah with your supposed 12 divine infallibles.

    • Masood Ibn Yasin

      hahaha… brother shia means the follower of Ali (A.S.) and you should know that the people of kufa was the followers of Ali (A.S.)

  6. ali ka follower

    salam,
    My brother i am shia. I cmpletely agree to wat u told above about the history of tawwabin. But have you ever heard the hadith of Prophet Mohammad (s.a.w) to Bibi Fatema zehra (s.a) when she askd Rasool who will cry and remember my Hussain(a.s) after His Shahaadat. Rasool(s.a.w) said dont worry ya Fatema ALLAH has promised HE will create a community which wil cry on Hussain.
    Now u can tel anythng u want but we know dat v r d community which is d result of Dua e Fatema Zehra(s.a).

    • The Prophet (saw) said no such thing. It must be a Shia fabrication to justify their innovative beliefs.

      • ashaf

        listen..i wil tell u the truth..who killed imam hussain a.s….shias are here to..mourn karbala..as promised by phophet mohammad to bibi fatima zehra..they are not involved in martrydom of imam hussain a.s…sunni and wahabi killed imam hussain a.s…dats y we say bar yazid lanat..bar ibn saad lanat..nd all three(caliph) lanat..always

      • umair

        us sunnis need to give them complete azadi about matam. cause whatever their parents and grand fathers had done they will get suffer from that.and this suffering will go on till qayamat.

      • i wanna ask you i am convinced all your given references but i have two question kickin’ in my head what happened to prisoners of war and why not yazid r.a. not done execution of shia

      • I totally agree with you. There are some questions kickin’ in my head that what happened to the prisoners of war(ahle bayt and the remaining companions) and did the Yazid(R. A) executed the war criminals (mostly shia) who were involved in the plan of killing. Sorry for asking late but I’ve came to know about this now and encountered with these questions when I defend respect of Yazid(R. A). Please reply sofort with references. I wanna stay outta doubt.

    • ashaf

      yaa brother u r r8..bt who want to argue wid these persons of yazid community..bar bar bar lanat

      • umair

        yazid par lanat.bar bar .but remember if u hurt one human being u will get hurt for the rest of your life. shias are the killer of nabi s olad. they will suffer until qayamat. I know one thing that if you love someone you get love back. and if you kill some one you will get death. khoon ka badla khoon. but their gunna is so big that thery will suffer till last day. sunnis can not stop shias from matam. we can never …………..ever stop that.they will be hitting them self hurting their body and will love to do the until qayamat. just look at their life routine which starts from matam the whole year matam. they are the example for us sunnis to remember our beloved prophet and prophets family sacrifice which they have given for us. so don’t fight over matam. just look and see that kida of yazid hitting themselves happily for the action they have done .we intent to forget things easily. allah said that I will be guardian for quran so nabi who gave us the quran his should be remembered by all muslims.and it is because of shias that we remember muharram and hazrat imam hussain s sacrifice.

    • umair

      tell me one thing what happened to that army nat just yazid that army who fought with them. and don’t you think they will get married and have kids after that .where are there kids .isn’t the Syria (sham) is where they had the yazid mahal that time. two nations were involved. one with swored and one with lie. koffa and sham. and yes community of liers and killers.tell me don’t you guys lie a lot. you guys lie about MUTTA. U have different kalma. and exsetra

    • shahzeen fatma

      totally mess here been written… according to me the killer of imam Hussain ibne hazrat Ali was yazeed ibne muawiyah(lanat) who does nt belonged to shia cast not at all and hence he was trying to mixed up haram and halal he was totally in scheme to damaged Islam to save that Islam imam hussain and one thing 1 need to tell to all the misconceptions (sunni) that we used do matam hadis ziyarrat in order to remember the Karbala movement again and again and yes u ppl r correct we will continued on doing matam till we lived bt we will never keep roza on that day just like u ppl because it was yazeed mother who kept roza and surely u ppl belongs to yazeed groups we never used to sang drums neither used to ware a dulhans joda on muharram u ppl r really illiterate nd obvious lastly lanat on 3monkeys along with yazeed (chimpanzee)
      labbaik ya Hussain (a.s)

      • Hassan Ali

        Shia Killed Hussain [R.A] and the other thing yoy said about Roza . Our holy prophet Hazarat Muhammad (P.B.U.H) said that We will fasting (Roza rakhna) on 10th Moharam . But at that time Non-Muslims Also takes fast (Roza) on 10th Moharam . SO manny Sahaba said that Non-Muslims also take fast on 10th moharam so we are equal . Hazarat Muhammad (P.B.U.H) said Non-Muslims take fast on only 10th Moharam from now we will also take fast on 9th Moharam so its “Hadees” . And about your matam ur stupid people do matam . You should Read Quran, khatam, Give water to thirsty , Give money to needy . like you people takes knives and gone to cut there self . In Quran its written (May allah forgive my mistake about speeling) “Muslimano Apni jano per zulum mat karo ” does ur word are more importance than Quran words . And that were shia who betrayed Imam Hussan (R.A)

  7. Imtiaz

    @ali ka Follower: Totally lie because In Islam Mourning is Haram, and one can’t mourn more than 3 days. You re lying in the name of Muhammad(saw)

    • Mirza Ali Zaien

      if mourning is haram then listen, our prophet hazrat Muhammad (s.a) lost His teeth in ohud war. After that Uyaaz Qarni breaked own all tooth in love of prophet. Prophet heard this news but He did not any comment against Uyaaz Qarni. And prophet always speaks in order of Allah. It proves that Allah is not disaggreed on this and mourning(matam) is halal.

  8. shafaq

    justify maatam being halal in islam…. how can voilance and pain be halal on the creation of ALLAH,,, the soul reason behind suesicde is that one cnat have control over their life or body, ALLAH is the CREATOR and owns the right to its creation so how can HIS follower our PROPHET MUHAMMED S.A.W say or support such community with such actions. please justify..

  9. shujah

    instead of pointing at each other lets us just make one dua all shia are willing to do it if Hazrat Imran(Abu Talib) is kafir so are we and may Allah burn us in hell with him. and I would like you to make the same dua with Mayvia or Yazid hell i dare you to make the same dua with your first three khalifs one call the our beloved Prophet hizyan. and disobeys him. One kicks out the person our prophet loves and bring the and give government to the person whom prophet banished. and one well read sura lahab. tabat ma …………..

  10. shani

    wat a dum fuck r u bro ill literate go study islamic history ans then come up with stories wow wat a mess

  11. Amaan haider

    People who do not know that what a shia is are writing these type of poison and creating a wall in the relations between muslim brothers. On coming to yazid, people say that he was a shia but i would like u remind that a person who drinks alcohol, play rummy, promotes adultery can’t be a Muslim, being of shia and sunni is none of matter

  12. Taabi

    Your logic seems interesting but its picking up history on a very later stage. Building on your logic … Prophet Muhammad PBUH was mistreated by people of Makkah and those people believed that he has nawozobillah gone crazy. They hated him so much that they decided to Kill the Prophet. Prophet was however saved by timely intervention of Allah and was advised to leave Makkah. Later on when Prophet became powerfull, he returned to Makkah. Makkis embraced Islam for their lives but kept their hatred. Now these people are Sunni Wahabis living in Saudi and believe in destruction of every possible historical clue that will lead anyone to the true teachings of Islam. One of the leading person who was in Makkah at that time was known as Abu-Sufiyan. He was father to Muahwieyah and grand father to Yazeed. They hated our beloved Prophet and his family so much that His wife Hind ate the raw liver of Hamza who was Uncle of Prophet Mohammad PBUH. Hind and Abu Suffiyans son was Muawiya – they passed their hatered to him and raised him with same idea of killing Prophet Muhammad’s family – he tried twice to kill Ali in wars but failed and then finally hired a mercenary to do this job who succeeded but he was late as Ali already had sons from Fatima which made the blood line of Prophet continue. Muaweya then kiled Hassan the elder son by poisoning him but couldnt manage the killing of Hussain. This was accomplished by Yazeed eventually in Karbala establishing finally the rule of Ummayads fulfilling his grandfather Abu-Sufyans dream. However, since he was a bastard he ended up in misery. Now his sons around the world are trying to get rid of the Zikr e Hussain …Hence it is proven that wahabis are anti-Prophet and his preachings. secondly it is also proven that sons of Suffiyan, muaweyah and yazeed are still trying to kill Prophet’s Muhammad’s Zikr by spreading hatred against their lovers. I hope you agree with this narration as it is based on the same logic of yours.

  13. Mirza Ali Zaien

    It’s a great false story made by enemies of islaam.
    In tragedy of Karbala no shia muslim was against of imam Hussain (a.s). Who killed imam Hussain they were munafik. In soldier of Yazid there was many hafiz e quran and qari e quran. You won’t find any shia muslim. If you challenge me that shia’s were against imam Hussain (a.s) then tell me was ibn-e-ziad, Shimr, Umar ibn-e-saad shia muslim?? or slave of khalifa Yazid made by bloody peoples??

  14. Zafar

    It was interesting debate. Shia-ism dates back to Kufa who betrayed Hazrat Ali (RA) and Hazrat Hussain (RA). If the current Shia say that they are innocent in this regarad we should accept it. But Shia should openly praise the companions of the Prophet (PBUH) specially, the first three Khalifa; all his wives (Ummahat ul momineen) and Hazrat e Muawia (RA) as all the Sahaba have been praised by Quran generally. Any reporting about their errors or omissions must be overlooked and leave it to Allah (SWT). If they do not accept this, then they can’t stop others to respond.

  15. Faisal Malik

    Dear followers of Islam(brothers and sisters), the verses of quran are meant for all to follow, not to debate over it. Instead of finding who did what almost 1400 years ago, simply live peacefully and pray for repentence or remembrence or for anything and for whoever you want. Dont try to find meanings in verses of quran and islamic hadiths by bending and breaking the verses! This does not suit muslims. We are all muslims. I came here searching for why shias do matam on ashura. But what i found here is awful! People have started a debate and a blame game over the martyrdom and Islam itself! By reading few articles online or by reading few books no one will become a scholar on Islam! The sahabis, the companions, relatives of prophet and prophet himself, by the grace and path of Allah, have versed quran! Be thankful that we are still able to read it and pray and fast and perform other rituals, in the path of Islam for the sake of Allah! May Allah have mercy on us all and may he forgive our sins. May peace be onto each and every muslim.

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