Tahreef in Quran


Lets see shia sahih hadith:

عَلِيُّ بْنُ الْحَكَمِ عَنْ هِشَامِ بْنِ سَالِمٍ عَنْ أَبِي عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ع قَالَ إِنَّ الْقُرْآنَ الَّذِي جَاءَ بِهِ جَبْرَئِيلُ ع إِلَى مُحَمَّدٍ ص سَبْعَةَ عَشَرَ أَلْفَ آيَةٍ

“Aboo ‘Abd Allah (as), has said, ‘The Holy Quran that Jibra’eel brought to Muhammad (SAWAS) had seventeen thousand verses (17,000).’”

Source: Al-Kulaynee, Al-Kaafi, vol. 2, pg. 634, hadeeth # 28

  • Al-Majlisi said this hadeeth is Muwaththaq (Reliable) in Mir’aat Al-‘Uqool, vol. 12, pg. 525
  • Al-Majlisi I (Majlisi’s Father) said this hadeeth is Saheeh (Authentic) in RawDah Al-Muttaqoon, vol. 10, pg. 21
  • Hoor Al-‘Aamilee said this hadeeth is Saheeh (authentic) in Al-Fuwaa-id Al-Toosiyyah, topic # 96, pg. 483

I will add, after the hadeeth about the 17,000 verses, Al-Majlisi was VERY ADAMANT that this proves the tahreef of the Qur’aan. This is what he said after saying that 17,000 verses hadeeth.

فالخبر صحيح و لا يخفى أن هذا الخبر و كثير من الأخبار الصحيحة صريحة في نقص القرآن و تغييره، و عندي أن الأخبار في هذا الباب متواترة معنى، و طرح جميعها يوجب رفع الاعتماد عن الأخبار رأسا

“The khabar (hadeeth) is Saheeh and it is obvious that this khabar (hadeeth) and other Saheeh ones like it are clear about the Qur’aan being shortened and changed, and in my opinion, this is mutaawatir in meaning, and discarding these narrations would lead us to rejecting all akhbar in general.

Source: Al-Majlisi, Mir’aat Al-‘Uqool, vol. 12, pg. 525

^^ THIS ABOVE HADITH CAN BE MORE CLEARLY UNDERSTOOD BY OTHER HADITH OF ALMOST SAME INFO OF 17000 VERSES:

Imam Abu Abdullah said: Present Quran have 6666 verses & the Quran of ahlel-bayt had 17000 verses.

Source: Usool-e-kafi vol.5 Kitab-Fazulul Quran page-290 hadees: 3

More on Ali RAA and the Quran this time from grand ayatullah Ali al Sistani:

الرقم : 18

الـســؤال: لماذا لم يذكر اسم الامام علي (ع) و الائمة المعصومين (ع) في القرآن الكريم نصّا ؟

الـجــواب: الله اعلم بوجه الحكمة فلعله لإفتتان الناس و لعله كإن يعلم إنّ ذلك كان يبعث باعدائه للتشكيك في كتاب الله و خدش إحترامه و كرامته كما صنعوا بأحاديث الرسول (ص) .

Question (18): Why aren’t the names of Imam Ali PBUH and the rest of the Imams PBUT written down in the Quran?

Answer: Allah knows best and it is his wisdom, maybe he didn’t want a Fitnah amongst the people and Maybe he would’ve known That this would lead his(Ali’s) enemies to cast doubt on the Authenticity of the Quran and to disrespect the book of Allah like they did with the Hadiths of the prophet PBUH.

Source: http://www.alquran-network.net/istiftaequran.htm

Also posted on The NoorFatema forums:
http://noorfatema.com/vb/showthread.php?t=15880

So Allah didn’t write down the name of Ali RAA because he was afraid of his creations ? that they may leave the religion? and cast doubts upon the Quran because The Name of Ali RAA was written in it? why all this hatred for Ali RAA ??? “Astaghfiru’llah”

Now check out the Cold Hard truth while keeping in mind the Fatwa of Sistani,

Al mirza Husayn al nuri al tabrasi (d. 1320) Is one of the biggest Shiite scholars who was buried in Najaf el Ashraf next to imam Ali RAA because of his high rank, This Man wrote a book About the corruption of the Quran and in the intro we read:

“This is a subtle book, a noble compilation, which I have written to prove the distortion of the Qur’an and the disgraces of the people of tyranny and oppression.”
Source: Faslul Khitab fi Ithbat tahreef kitab rab al arbab (d. 1320), page 2 [Tehran]

Aytaullah Ali al Milani, another shiite scholar and polemicist, also writes about al-Nūrī:
“It is certainly correct that Al mirza Nuri is from among major scholars of narrations and we respect al-Mirza al-Nuri. Al mirza al nuri is one of our major scholars, and neither is it possible for us to even slightly be hostile towards him, nor is it permissible; (doing) this is forbidden [haram]! Verily, he is a major expert in the field of narrations from among our scholars.”
Source:Al muhadarat fi Al I’itiqadat, of al-Sayyid Ali al milani, volume 2, page 602 [Qum].

Now since we’re exposing here, Let’s just take the Opinion of another one of their biggest scholars, Ni’imatu’llah al Jaza’eree in his book “Al Anwar al nu’umaniyah” 2/360.

إنه قد استفاض في الأخبار أن القرآن كما أنزل لم يؤلفه إلا أمير المؤمنين بوصية النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم، فبقي بعد موته ستة أشهر مشتغلاً بجمعه، فلمَّا جمعه كما أنزل أتى به إلى المتخلفين بعد رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم، فقال لهم: هذا كتاب الله كما أنزل، فقال عمر بن الخطاب: لا حاجة بنا إليك ولا إلى قرآنك، عندنا قرآن كتبه عثمان، فقال لهم علي: لن تروه بعد هذا اليوم ولا يراه أحد حتى يظهر ولدي المهدي. وفي ذلك القرآن زيادات كثيرة وهو خالٍ من التحريف

“There are Countless narrations stating that the Quran in the state that it was originally revealed in was only gathered by Ameer Ali RAA and this is by the will of the Prophet PBUH, so he stayed six months after his death trying to gather The Quran, and after he did so he then brought it to those who gained control after the Prophet PBUH and said: This is the book of Allah as it was revealed, Umar Said: We don’t need you nor do we need your book, we have one which Uthman wrote, Then Ali replied: You Will Never See it after this day nor will anyone else until my son the Mahdi appears, and In it you will find many additions and it is free from corruption.

Now after those scholarly opinions let’s take 3 Hadith samples from their books about verses which they claim the word ALI was erased from by companions:

First sample:

قولـه تعالى: يا أيها الرسول بلغ ما أنزل إليك من ربك في علي، فإن لم تفعل عذبتك عذاباً أليماً، فطرح العدوي -بزعمهم- اسم علي

المناقب: (2/41)، فصل الخطاب: (282)، والمقصود بالعدوي: عمر بن الخطاب رضي الله عنه، وانظر أيضاً: فصل الخطاب: (242، 280، 281)، كشف الغمة: (1/326)، البرهان: (1/34، 437، 491)، محجة العلماء: (130)، الصافي: (2/51)، البحار: (35/58)، القمي: (1/23).

Allah said: O Messenger, announce that which has been revealed to you from your Lord regarding Ali, and if you do not, then I Will Torture you severely – Then Umar removed the word Ali –

Source: Al manaqib 2/41, Faslul Khitab 282, 242, 280, 281, Kashf al ghummah 1/326, Al burhan 1/34, 437, 491, Mahajjat al ulema 130, Al Safi 2/51, Bihar al Anwar 35/58, Al Qummi 1/23.

Second sample:

وعن الباقر: نزل جبرئيل بهذه الآية على محمد صلى الله عليه وسلم هكذا: وإن كنتم في ريب مما نزلنا على عبدنا في علي فأتوا بسورة من مثله

الكافي  1/417)، البرهان  1/70)(3/70)، القمي: (1/35)، البحار: (23/373)(35/75)، فصل الخطاب: (254)، البيان: (230)، تأويل الآيات: (1/42).

Al Baqir Said: Gabriel came down to Muhammad PBUH with this verse: And if you are in doubt about what We have sent down upon Our Servant regarding ALI, then produce a surah the like thereof.

Source: Al kafi 1/417, Al burhan 1/70, 3/70, Al Qummi 1/35, bihar al Anwar 23/373, 35/75, Faslul Khitab 254, Al bayan 230, ta’aweel al Ayat 1/42.

Third Sample:

وعنه قال: نزلت هذه الآية على محمد صلى الله عليه وسلم هكذا والله: وإذا قيل لهم ماذا أنزل ربكم في علي قالوا أساطير الأولين

البرهان: (1/130) (2/363)، فصل الخطاب: (256، 301)، العياشي: (2/279)، القمي: = = (1/385)، البحار: (35/58) (36/104، 141)، تفسير فرات: (1/234).

Al baqir Said: By Allah this verse was revealed on Muhammad PBUH as such: And when it is said to them, “What has your Lord sent down about ALI ?” They say, “Legends of the former peoples”.

Source: Al burhan 1/130, 2/363, Faslul Khitab 301, 256, Al Ayyashi 2/279, Al Qummi: = = 1/385, Bihar al Anwar 35/58, 36/104,141, Tafseer Furat 1/234.

of course there’s more than 2000+ narrations in their books however these are enough Now we go back and remember what that Sistani said and have a Laugh,

Allah knows best and it is his wisdom, maybe he didn’t want a Fitnah amongst the people and Maybe he would’ve known That this would lead his(Ali’s) enemies to cast doubt on the Authenticity of the Quran and to disrespect the book of Allah like they did with the Hadiths of the prophet PBUH

how Ironic, and can we say for example That Allah did a Miscalculation here according to Ayatullah Sistani (Astaghfirul’lah) because the exact opposite has happened…

AND Because of these and many Other scholarly Opinions we see Sistani forced to make Fatwas like this one below:

السؤال : هل يجوز الصلاة خلف شخص لدي شك بأن القرآن فيه تحريف ؟

الجواب: لا يعتبر القول بالتحريف كفراً أو فسقاً و ان كان القول بالزيادة مخالف لاجماع المسلمين و أما القول بالنقيصة فهو وارد في كتب العامة.

Question (2): Is it permissible to pray behind a person who doubts the authenticity of the Quran?

Answer: The Saying that the Quran is corrupt is not considered Kufr or Fusq, Although The saying of Addition contradicts the consensus of Muslims however the sayings of deletion are found in the books of Mainstream Muslims (Sunnies).

This Fatwa has apparently damaged the Image of Sistani and exposed him so he took it out from his site, but as usuall screen-shot was took by one of the sunni brother & available only for you my brothers.😛

So you can see Twelverite Corruption.

Fatwa By Ayatollah Sayyed Ali al Husseini al milani:

هل صحيح هو قول الشيخ المفيد وأبو الحسن العاملي والسيد نعمة الله الجزائري والمجلسي وغيرهم ـ مع ما لهم من الفضل والدرجة العلمية الرفيعة ـ بتحريف القرآن؟
القسم : مسألة تحريف القرآن
بسمه تعالى:
نحن لا ننكر وجود عددٍ قليل جداً من المحدّثين عندنا يقولون بنقصان القرآن الكريم، وكونه قولاً مردوداً لا يقدح بالدرجة العلمية للقائلين به، ولا يجوّز لنا الطعن فيهم.

Question: Is it true this saying of Sheikh Al Mufid and Abu Al Hassan Al Amili and Sayyed Ni’imaullah al Jaza’eri and Al Majlisi and Others – With all due respect to their Virtues and high status in Fiqh and knowledge – About The Corruption of the Quran?

Answer By Al Milani: Bism Allah,
We Do not deny the fact that there is a very small number of our Muhadiths(Scholars of Hadith) who say that the holy Quran has been the victim of Deletion(Corruption), And Although this saying is rejected, Still it does not Scratch the reputation of those scholars of knowledge and it is forbidden for us to criticize/attack them.

Link: http://www.al-milani.net/fatawa/?id=24

But of course We took the print-screen as usual before they delete the fatwa.😛

Allah says in the Quran: “They have taken their scholars and monks as lords besides Allah” [9:31]

For those who Do not know, The Scholars stated above ARE SOME OF THE BIGGEST SCHOLARS in the history of Shiism, and of course when the guy says “a very small number” that’s a Fat lie almost all of them scholars believed this except for 3 or 4 like al Murtada.

updated to version 1.1

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3 responses to “Tahreef in Quran

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  3. Shani

    Astagfirullah may Allah guide us all.

    Shame thing is majority Shia do not know what Is written in their books or what is said by their top scholars.

    Instead shia tend to spend more time trying to take out faults in Bukhari Muslim etc and every Hadith they take out alhamdulillah ahle sunnah wal jamaah have solid and logical answers to them

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